Was Samuels Worth The Contract???

Schneed10 · 03-15-2005, 09:33 AM

And we still play in a division with Jevon Kearse and Michael Strahan. Granted, Strahan lines up against Jansen, but the need for strong tackles is evident in the NFC East.

SmootSmack · 03-15-2005, 10:05 AM

I think we should sign Strahan's wife as an offensive tackle. He can't go near her

MTK · 03-15-2005, 10:12 AM

Is any player really "worth" these ridiculous sums of money??

BrudLee · 03-15-2005, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I think we should sign Strahan's wife as an offensive tackle. He can't go near her

Very curious as to how this would make the discussion pages. Well played, sir.

SmootSmack · 03-15-2005, 10:39 AM

I'd like to thank Schneed10 for throwing me that Strahan fastball right down the middle of the plate

jdlea · 03-15-2005, 11:03 AM

I think we probably gave Samuels than he would have found in free agency, however, I think he was well worth it.

MTK · 03-15-2005, 11:07 AM

We paid a fair market price for Samuels, too bad we could have had him for cheaper earlier in the offseason.

The offensive line is a very important cog to this offense, it is with any offense but especially for Gibbs who stresses the running game and protection for his QB.

Last year we saw how life was without one standout tackle, I don't think we were interested in going through that again.

diehardskin2982 · 03-15-2005, 03:15 PM

Yes he is worth it, because his contract also made a statement we are trying to establish continuity and if you are loyal to the skins, you will be rewarded

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-15-2005, 03:19 PM

Very true. He got his payday. He restructured to help out the team and because of his solid play and team effort he gets the money. That is a way to appeal to money hungry players AND to one's who play for the love of the game.

sportscurmudgeon · 03-17-2005, 12:51 AM

Malcom:

Samuels restructured twice and set himself up in a siutation where he was due for a huge payday AND it would not have been a huge cap benefit for the Skins to just release him. Then, he took the rather obvious situation that there was no replacement for him on the squad and looked at the "market value: for OTs and basically told the Skins to pay up or he'd just take the money that was owed to him for one year and then become a free agent.

This was not a reward for being a team player. This was paying what they had to pay in order to prevent going into 2005 with a gaping hole on the left side of the OL. Remember, that's where Dockery is too so let's not delude ourselves that there is an abundance of talent in the LG position.

Samuels proves that the noble goals and intentions of the Redskins not to pay players at a position more than they do "better players" at the same position are "fluid". Jansen is the better tackle on the line and has been for several years now. Samuels is making a ton more than Jansen made when Jansen signed and will be for a while to come. Now cpmpare that situation to the explanations about why Pierce and Smoot were let go...

MTK · 03-17-2005, 10:28 AM

Problem is we're talking about different positions SC. Right tackles around the league aren't as highly paid as left tackles.

It's apples and oranges.

03-15-2005, 09:33 AM	#16
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,427	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? And we still play in a division with Jevon Kearse and Michael Strahan. Granted, Strahan lines up against Jansen, but the need for strong tackles is evident in the NFC East.

03-15-2005, 10:05 AM	#17
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? I think we should sign Strahan's wife as an offensive tackle. He can't go near her __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-15-2005, 10:12 AM	#18
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,576	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? Is any player really "worth" these ridiculous sums of money?? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-15-2005, 10:39 AM	#20
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? I'd like to thank Schneed10 for throwing me that Strahan fastball right down the middle of the plate __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-15-2005, 11:03 AM	#21
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? I think we probably gave Samuels than he would have found in free agency, however, I think he was well worth it.

03-15-2005, 11:07 AM	#22
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,576	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? We paid a fair market price for Samuels, too bad we could have had him for cheaper earlier in the offseason. The offensive line is a very important cog to this offense, it is with any offense but especially for Gibbs who stresses the running game and protection for his QB. Last year we saw how life was without one standout tackle, I don't think we were interested in going through that again. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-15-2005, 03:15 PM	#23
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? Yes he is worth it, because his contract also made a statement we are trying to establish continuity and if you are loyal to the skins, you will be rewarded __________________ That got ugly fast

03-15-2005, 03:19 PM	#24
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? Very true. He got his payday. He restructured to help out the team and because of his solid play and team effort he gets the money. That is a way to appeal to money hungry players AND to one's who play for the love of the game. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-17-2005, 12:51 AM	#25
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? Malcom: Samuels restructured twice and set himself up in a siutation where he was due for a huge payday AND it would not have been a huge cap benefit for the Skins to just release him. Then, he took the rather obvious situation that there was no replacement for him on the squad and looked at the "market value: for OTs and basically told the Skins to pay up or he'd just take the money that was owed to him for one year and then become a free agent. This was not a reward for being a team player. This was paying what they had to pay in order to prevent going into 2005 with a gaping hole on the left side of the OL. Remember, that's where Dockery is too so let's not delude ourselves that there is an abundance of talent in the LG position. Samuels proves that the noble goals and intentions of the Redskins not to pay players at a position more than they do "better players" at the same position are "fluid". Jansen is the better tackle on the line and has been for several years now. Samuels is making a ton more than Jansen made when Jansen signed and will be for a while to come. Now cpmpare that situation to the explanations about why Pierce and Smoot were let go... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

03-17-2005, 10:28 AM	#26
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,576	Re: Was Samuels Worth The Contract??? Problem is we're talking about different positions SC. Right tackles around the league aren't as highly paid as left tackles. It's apples and oranges. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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