Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems?

saden1 · 10-05-2010, 03:11 PM

Rogers did get that juggled INT last week. He simply panics in game situation...in other words, he's a choker!

ashvirtually · 10-05-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by horse

I'll never forgive him for dropping that pick 6 against Seattle in a playoff game in 05, could've changed everything.

Yeah, remembering that makes me mad. I rarely see the life get sucked out of a place as I did the night of that loss.

Monkeydad · 10-05-2010, 03:38 PM

Lets not forget about this:

Oh well, there's always his college glory days...

KLHJ2 · 10-05-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneBoost

I was listening to ESPN 980 today and they were talking, think it was five guys, could be mistaken. Don't know who they all were, know one was Doc and I think the other one was Kevin Sheehan.

Anyways, they were talking all sports as usual and they read one email from I believe what was an ex quarterback. He believes that the problem with Carlos Rogers might be lack of depth perception.

I was wondering does anyone think this might be a problem? I mean it seems like it could be one in all seriousness. The man did say his was so bad at some points he couldn't even put the toothpaste on the toothbrush.

Personally I think his problem is brick hands, but anyone think this might be a possible reason to his interception problems?

I played WR and DB in High school with a terrible astigmatism. I was the fast guy that couldn't catch. The trouble was that my glasses and goggles would not fit properly under the helmet which caused them to fog up. Most of the time this would cause me to have to play without them. I kept dropping balls on the practice field and in games but was a stud when I played against the same guys on the sandlot.

Even going into my adulthood I had absolutly zero problems catching the ball when playing with the guys or playing for my flag football teams while wearing my glasses. I firmly believe that it was vision issues namely "depth perception" that cause my problems in high school. I can believe that Carlos has some similar issues as well.

Mechanix544 · 10-05-2010, 07:10 PM

I just think dude can't catch, and just plain gets nervous when the ball comes his way. Its a different thing to make plays on defense, ie tackle, sack, pass defended (which all of 'los'picks end up being anyways), but a whole other monster to have the pigskin IN YOUR hands, and everyone in football kingdom expects you to do something with it. When all eyes are on carlos, it just seems like he gets way too nervous, and can't just shrug the excitement and anxiety off. It definitely translates into his play, which I think does not bode well for the Redskins come playoff time and he is expected to make a play. Shit, he has already cost us one playoff game already. We are gifted with playoff appearances way too rarely to let Rogers finicky nerves come between us and a W.

That being said, I also think that had he caught just 25% of the passes that he should have, he would be considered one of the best players on our defense, and definitely pro bowl material.

He needs to take a que from Cooley, and go on that carrot regimine.

tootergray34 · 10-05-2010, 08:09 PM

his schiavo hands kill me every week dude.

SirClintonPortis · 10-05-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by horse

I'll never forgive him for dropping that pick 6 aginst seattle in a playoff game in 05, could've changed everything.

He also dropped one against rapistberger in '08.

nephron22 · 10-05-2010, 09:29 PM

I heard an NFL analyst report the same thing last year. It could explain things. If he can't judge how close the ball is, unless it hits him in the belly, it will hit his hands and bounce off. My question is--In these days of NFL testing eveything in combines. How the hell didn't our scouts pick up on this. Ooops!!

SirClintonPortis · 10-05-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nephron22

I heard an NFL analyst report the same thing last year. It could explain things. If he can't judge how close the ball is, unless it hits him in the belly, it will hit his hands and bounce off. My question is--In these days of NFL testing eveything in combines. How the hell didn't our scouts pick up on this. Ooops!!

You really think the have an eye doctor at the combine?

NM Redskin · 10-05-2010, 09:43 PM

You would think if it was a vision problem, that he would also have a problem catching them in practice. From what I remember hearing/reading is that he has no problems catching them in practice, so I'm leaning towards the choke artist theory.

SirClintonPortis · 10-05-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NM Redskin

You would think if it was a vision problem, that he would also have a problem catching them in practice. From what I remember hearing/reading is that he has no problems catching them in practice, so I'm leaning towards the choke artist theory.

Practice is slower paced and more relaxed, no matter how hard you push them. Plus, we don't know if they're "clean" catches.

Monkeydad · 10-06-2010, 11:33 AM

If he knew a vision issue was causing his problems, he would have had laser eye surgery by now, he can afford it.

The eye doc here in PA that I get my annual vision tests from (have 20/20 but on arthritis medication that requires eye testing as a precaution) has done Lasik for several members of the Ravens. He's one of the top eye surgeons on the East Coast. It's not uncommon for players to have laser eye correction, so I'd think the team medical staff would have diagnosed Carlos and had it corrected if it were a legitimate problem.

I think it's mental, he just chokes. He drops floaters and nearly EVERY ball that touches his hands. Even with bad vision, he should be able to feel what the ball gets there and should catch the softer passes. He doesn't.

Look at that video I posted with the drop vs. Dallas. Most high school CBs could make that catch...it was like it was intended for him.

MTK · 10-06-2010, 11:52 AM

Team doctors or Carlos himself would have identified any vision issues by now. I think he just suffers from SHS - shitty hands syndrome.

Chico23231 · 10-06-2010, 12:01 PM

If carlos could get 75% of his dropped interceptions he would be considered elite.

Bad part is, he wants to get paid like an elite, but in order to get that all that money for a cornerback, people want that playmaking cornerback...

Monkeydad · 10-06-2010, 01:45 PM

Carlos Rogers Is Frustrated With His Hands

10-05-2010, 03:11 PM	#31
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? Rogers did get that juggled INT last week. He simply panics in game situation...in other words, he's a choker! __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

10-05-2010, 03:38 PM	#33
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? Lets not forget about this: Oh well, there's always his college glory days... __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

10-05-2010, 07:10 PM	#35
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? I just think dude can't catch, and just plain gets nervous when the ball comes his way. Its a different thing to make plays on defense, ie tackle, sack, pass defended (which all of 'los'picks end up being anyways), but a whole other monster to have the pigskin IN YOUR hands, and everyone in football kingdom expects you to do something with it. When all eyes are on carlos, it just seems like he gets way too nervous, and can't just shrug the excitement and anxiety off. It definitely translates into his play, which I think does not bode well for the Redskins come playoff time and he is expected to make a play. Shit, he has already cost us one playoff game already. We are gifted with playoff appearances way too rarely to let Rogers finicky nerves come between us and a W. That being said, I also think that had he caught just 25% of the passes that he should have, he would be considered one of the best players on our defense, and definitely pro bowl material. He needs to take a que from Cooley, and go on that carrot regimine.

10-05-2010, 08:09 PM	#36
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? his schiavo hands kill me every week dude. __________________ ---HAIL!!!---

10-05-2010, 09:29 PM	#38
nephron22 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? I heard an NFL analyst report the same thing last year. It could explain things. If he can't judge how close the ball is, unless it hits him in the belly, it will hit his hands and bounce off. My question is--In these days of NFL testing eveything in combines. How the hell didn't our scouts pick up on this. Ooops!!

10-05-2010, 09:43 PM	#40
NM Redskin The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 1,014	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? You would think if it was a vision problem, that he would also have a problem catching them in practice. From what I remember hearing/reading is that he has no problems catching them in practice, so I'm leaning towards the choke artist theory. __________________ Despite my solid 40 time and great intangibles I went undrafted AGAIN!

10-06-2010, 11:33 AM	#42
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? If he knew a vision issue was causing his problems, he would have had laser eye surgery by now, he can afford it. The eye doc here in PA that I get my annual vision tests from (have 20/20 but on arthritis medication that requires eye testing as a precaution) has done Lasik for several members of the Ravens. He's one of the top eye surgeons on the East Coast. It's not uncommon for players to have laser eye correction, so I'd think the team medical staff would have diagnosed Carlos and had it corrected if it were a legitimate problem. I think it's mental, he just chokes. He drops floaters and nearly EVERY ball that touches his hands. Even with bad vision, he should be able to feel what the ball gets there and should catch the softer passes. He doesn't. Look at that video I posted with the drop vs. Dallas. Most high school CBs could make that catch...it was like it was intended for him. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

10-06-2010, 11:52 AM	#43
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? Team doctors or Carlos himself would have identified any vision issues by now. I think he just suffers from SHS - shitty hands syndrome. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-06-2010, 12:01 PM	#44
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,505	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? If carlos could get 75% of his dropped interceptions he would be considered elite. Bad part is, he wants to get paid like an elite, but in order to get that all that money for a cornerback, people want that playmaking cornerback... __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

10-06-2010, 01:45 PM	#45
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: Possible Reason for Carlos's Problems? Carlos Rogers Is Frustrated With His Hands __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

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