Report: Grossman Starting on Sunday

[Beemnseven]

It's amazing when you think about the days before the internet and sports fan message boards.

[skinsfaninok]

The last QB to wear 8 for us played very well in his time as a starter.. Who knows maybe Rex does the same, the guy did play in a SuperBowl.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'd agree, I'm sure after the Lions game Shanahan probably wanted to give Grossman a shot. It didn't take him 13 weeks to realize this wasn't working out, he knew this a long time ago.

He did. I also dont think Shanny owes DM anything more than what he has given him, a shot at playing. DM didnt make the most of his chance and now Shanny says its time to change it up, that's what coaches do.

[44 70 chip]

I think this move is more evidence that McNabb wasn't Shanahans idea to begin with.

No one wants to hear it, but McNabb had Snyder written all over it. So did Larry Johnson and Willy Parker, Larry Johnson got what a half cup of coffee as a starter and a quick dismissal the moment he did something stupid?

Let put it this way, lets play a match game keep an open mind lets assign past history to Snyder and Shanahan, you put the historical tendency or move in the correct collumn.

Shanahan:

Snyder:


There's our Shanahan column and Snyder column now match these up and put them in each column:

Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Signs big name free agents all the time
Gets the better in trades
Overpays in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis

now match um up.

[44 70 chip]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

It's amazing when you think about the days before the internet and sports fan message boards.

you mean back when fans like us just shouted long strings of invective laced analysis at the TV screen? Instead of arguing with each other about it?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Many of the top coaches run their teams like Shanny is now. He is looking for the most prefessional and devotred players to play for his team.

Patriots
Steelers
Colts

All of these teams run the same way, and Shanny is doing no different in Washington. It's his way! To many times have we brought Vets in here to collect paychecks on the low end of their career.

We had a chance to bring a known great QB from our OWN division, and we made a move on him. We gave up some picks because what else did we have to offer that the eagles wanted? We have little talent on both sides of the ball, and are ina big rebuilding stage.

Shanny is looking for devoted players who are here to help build a TEAM. Not just a bunch of broken down vets. Mcnabb didn't work out, and now we move on.. Shit happens.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Rex does this week. It can't get any worse then what we've already seen? I was watching the breakdown of film on NFL.com and saw how many open WR Mcnabb has been missing all year. He missed a wide open Moss in the endzone last week and foreced a low pass into double coverage instead. He wasn't doing that shit in Philly.. He can't learn the offense, and Rex thinks he can.

Give Rex a shot, and let's see what he can do. We are 5-8... Not 8-5

I think your post makes way to much sense to survive these chaotic times. One of us may have to move to the drunk thread......

[44 70 chip]

Okay no ones gonna actually match them up so let me continue my narrative:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's

Now lets put McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on one column or the other...

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

OPPS time to play "one of these is not like the other"! On the other hand:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

Ahhhh perfect fit....

Yes I know many of you are holding out hope that BA and Shanahan represented Snyder "turning a corner" "learning his lesson" or "handing over the reigns to the football people".

But I can't help but conclude that all circumstantial evidence and both persons "MO's" -- Especially given how McNabb and both runners have been handled by Shanahan -- point to Snyder's fingers still in the cookie Jar.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by irish

He did. I also dont think Shanny owes DM anything more than what he has given him, a shot at playing. DM didnt make the most of his chance and now Shanny says its time to change it up, that's what coaches do.

YES, that is what good coaches do.....

[Arrrgh!]

The same 3-ring circus as always. I don't have any great hopes for tomorrow, but I admit I'm curious to see how Rex fares.

[SFREDSKIN]

While Shanahan is at it, he might as well trade this year and next year's draft for Andrew Luck. Why not since the house is being cleaned thoroughly.

[skinsfaninok]

John Clayton said this morning on SC that Shanny could try and make a move for jay cutler, I doubt Chicago trades him even though he hasn't played that great. I'm all for drafting a rookie but I think luck is the only day 1 starter. Like I said yesterday I wouldn't mind seeing orton here

[SmootSmack]

Claytons been taking Cutler for a few months now

[MTK]

Here we go with the Snyder did it stuff. Ugh.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 44 70 chip

Okay no ones gonna actually match them up so let me continue my narrative:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's

Now lets put McNabb Willy Parker and Larry Johnson on one column or the other...

Shanahan:
Turns unheralded/late round/undrafted RB's into 1000 yard runners
Doesn't sign many big name free agents
Gets the better in trades
Drafts QB's tries to develop them
Never signed/traded for big name splashy vet QB's
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

OPPS time to play "one of these is not like the other"! On the other hand:

Snyder:
Tried to talk Berry Sanders out of retirement
Tried to lure Rickey Williams
Signs Jeff George and pushes him on the coach
Signs big name free agents all the time
Overpays in trades
Wants every QB flavor of the month (Cutler/Sanches)
Brought in several aging name QB's
Facinated by over the hill RB's
Signed Shawn Alexander
Traded for TJ Duckett
Overpaid for Clinton Portis
Traded 2nd and 4th round picks for McNabb
Signed Larry Johnson
Signed Willy Parker

Ahhhh perfect fit....

Yes I know many of you are holding out hope that BA and Shanahan represented Snyder "turning a corner" "learning his lesson" or "handing over the reigns to the football people".

But I can't help but conclude that all circumstantial evidence and both persons "MO's" -- Especially given how McNabb and both runners have been handled by Shanahan -- point to Snyder's fingers still in the cookie Jar.

Oh? It's not like Shanahan is flawless.
The entire Cleveland Browns defensive line.
Ron Dayne
The second highest-payroll in NFL history in 2001. (We have the record and the third-highest.


BTW, if Snyder really had a say, Haynesworth would not have been suspended.

[SirClintonPortis]

Also, Gibbs wanted Duckett, JC, Brunell, etc. He wanted to call the shots and he got it.