Grim...

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-22-2005, 10:34 AM

Yup. That's what I thought in the beginning...

firstdown · 07-22-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Yup. That's what I thought in the beginning...

I thought the same thing when he said that a rookie would be leading the team.I guess he forgot about Ramsey and saw that we drafted Campbell.That would not be a comment of some one who was observing this sight. They would know Ramsey is our starter.

SmootSmack · 07-22-2005, 10:57 AM

I'm kind of bummed. I thought this was a misspelled thread about my all-time favorite Hog...Russ Grimm

Davnpurt · 07-22-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'm kind of bummed. I thought this was a misspelled thread about my all-time favorite Hog...Russ Grimm

Me too, I read all four pages hoping that we were going to compare the Hogs to this year's bunch (in a positive light). Maybe we can shift course and do as such rather than going "point-counterpoint" to someone who may or may not be a fan of another team. (I'll admit sometimes I post negative things on the Philadelphia Inquirer's fan board just to ire up the Eagles' fans).

Does anyone know the progression of Wilson and Molinaro? What, if anything, has Bugel said about them?...etc...

TheMalcolmConnection · 07-22-2005, 12:27 PM

I heard a few good things in early offseason interviews. And just as everyone else brought up, if we needed depth at the line, we would have drafted or signed some.

firstdown · 07-22-2005, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Davnpurt

Me too, I read all four pages hoping that we were going to compare the Hogs to this year's bunch (in a positive light). Maybe we can shift course and do as such rather than going "point-counterpoint" to someone who may or may not be a fan of another team. (I'll admit sometimes I post negative things on the Philadelphia Inquirer's fan board just to ire up the Eagles' fans).

Does anyone know the progression of Wilson and Molinaro? What, if anything, has Bugel said about them?...etc...

You had to read four pages to realize this was not about Russ Grim and the Hogs. I want what your smoking!LOL

VishsSkins · 07-22-2005, 08:17 PM

Theres no reason why we cant be awesome next year. Basically, it all hinges on ramsey. He has everything around him he needs (great RB, amazing O-line, depth at WR, and one hell of a defense) so if things still dont go well, i think its time for him to go.

Longtimefan · 07-22-2005, 08:37 PM

Thanks for all the true fans who really understand the game of football and are constantly optomistic about the success of the team, and are not disturbed about the negative things said by some who do not want to see us be successful.

It is difficult for me to understand how anyone who watched the team play last year cannot be optomistic about the team's chances this season. Our record of 6-10 was not, IMO indicative of how this team can really perform. Had we taken advantage of a few more scoring opportunities last year, and scored a touchdown or two more, we could have easily been 10-6. We were not very far off in most of the games played, and what's really exciting is the fact we played our best football against the best teams, Philly-Pittsburg towards the end of the season. With just a little more offence we will go 10-6 maybe 11-5. I feel we've added enough on offence to make up that difference we were lacking last year, and bar a rash of serious injury we will be much improved on that side of the ball.

12thMan · 07-23-2005, 01:52 AM

I bet it was some Philly fan that started this thread.....they deserve T.O!!!

81forHOF · 07-23-2005, 02:19 PM

You guys crack me up!

Every offseason we have alot to get excited about. Every offseason I start talking smack to my friends and co-workers who are fans of Philly, Cowboys, Steelers or whoever. I say that this year is going to be different and ramble off a bunch of reasons and stats like everyone has done in response to this post. Then the season starts and every year we still suck! Save from one decent season, we have sucked for well over a decade!! History dictates that Everest3k is much more likely to be close to the mark than any of you guys.

I mean how many more times am I going to pump myself up for a huge let down? How many more times am I going to open my mouth only to put my foot in it? How many more times will I enthusiastically throw my heart into the Washington Redskins only to have it stepped on? (okay that last one was a little much). There comes a point that even a diehard fan (and I am diehard) has to say enough is enough.......

..........but, this year may be different. This year we have a wild card. This year we have an ace up our sleeves and his name is Gibbs. When he was hired last year, Gibbs himself said that to turn this thing around was going to take a little time and that it wasn't going to be easy, but that it would get done. None of us have any reason to doubt this man's word. That is why I'm getting sucked into the hype again!

As for the media, they are a pack of imbeciles. They all just jump on whatever nonsense is being passed around and reiterate it to death. They would have us believe that a showboat, me first CB who won't support the run and repeatedly jumps to whatever team that will pay him the most, is a more important addition to a football team than a man like Darrel Green. They would have us believe that a man who at one time held every major receiving record in football does not belong in the Hall of Fame. They would have us believe that one of the only men to coach teams to 3 Super Bowl victories is washed up just because he didn't experience immediate success his first year back.

Want to do a fun little experiment? Last year when Gibbs said he was coming back the media couldn't get enough of it. After he won his FIRST game against the Cardinals they were calling him a genius!!! After things started going not so well they all jumped on the same bandwagon and said he lost his touch. Said that the NFL past him by and he just won't be able to adjust. (Let me be the first to say that in a couple of years the rest of the NFL will be adjusting to Gibbs!). The experiment part is how many games do the Skins have to win early this season before the same pack of idiots are all calling him a genius again? Five?... Three?.... my guess is One!

So don't be so hard on Everest3k - he has every reason to feel the way he does. But as for me...........here I go again!

Redskins8588 · 07-23-2005, 08:55 PM

I dont know if anyone else noticed this, but I noticed that there seemed to be more team camaraderie. I mean if you were to watch any highlight film from last year, it seems that the players were eager to congraulate our player when they scored a touchdown. They actually made it a point to do so. As in past I can remember seeing our players score a touchdown and thats it, they walk back to the bench with maybe 1 or 2 guys being happy that we just got a touchdown. I think that when the team mates get excited and congratulate each other after a touchdown it shows team sportmanship, team camaraderie, and team characture...

Longtimefan · 07-23-2005, 11:28 PM

It may be better for you 81forHOF if you tried being cautiously optomistic as opposed to making bold predictions. I have a Brother who talks a lot of smack too. Every year he boldly predicts what the team is going to do and when we fail to reach his objectives he's left every Monday morning dreading going to work because he has to face the music. I've tried to encourage him to chill and not "bragg" so much, betting, and loosing his money. I have learned through the years how to be an optomist without going overboard thereby keeping my emotions in check. Every year in the NFL is different. every Sunday is different, and naturally I think we are going to win every game we play though I know that's not being realistic. However I've found this to be a safe way of maintaining my sanity over the course of a sixteen game season.

EternalEnigma21 · 07-23-2005, 11:41 PM

who needs sanity?... its overrated.

12thMan · 07-24-2005, 03:16 AM

Honestly, I think it's quite natural for a Skins fan to be overly optimistic, even unrealistic. Who thought George Allen and the "Over the Hill Gang" would have played against the only perfect team in NFL history in the Super Bowl? Who would of thought that John Riggins, who at that time many would have had you to believe was past his prime, along with the shortest receiving corps in the NFL(smufs) to a Super Bowl victory in the closing minutes? Who would of thought that a resurrected Doug Williams, playing on a bum knee, and one-game wonder Timmy Smith would blow out the Denver Broncos....My point is our rich tradition and awesome history has somewhat contributed to our misguided expectations. It's not like we're living in Cincy or New Orleans....or even Philly where they have no Super Bowl trophies. Whether it's been over a decade or not, winning is in our DNA!!!! Hail to the Redskins!!!!! Forever!!!!

everest3k · 07-25-2005, 12:58 AM

Some interesting responses. And no, I'm not a philly fan. Far from it. I've just been pretty frustrated since about Brad Johnson's last season with the team...(2001/2002 I think...)

The last couple of years have really sucked. (though I still watched most every game...). Saying that they sucked doesn't make you any less of a fan.

2 things concern me (in addition to the comments I made in my original post...)

I think I heard somewhere that Gibbs had mentioned something similar to, "If it doesn't happen this year, I'll walk away."

I like Gibbs alot, and I'd hate to see him go. We'd really be hurting then...

second, though I'd like to be as optimistic as most of the rest of you...I ask you this question...would you put a lot of money on them making the playoffs? I lost a box of arturo fuente chateaus last season...that hurt! I'm not so sure I'd throw another bet out there like that again this season.

I certainly hope we can pull it together this season...

07-22-2005, 10:34 AM	#31
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Grim... Yup. That's what I thought in the beginning... __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-22-2005, 10:57 AM	#33
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Grim... I'm kind of bummed. I thought this was a misspelled thread about my all-time favorite Hog...Russ Grimm __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-22-2005, 12:27 PM	#35
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Grim... I heard a few good things in early offseason interviews. And just as everyone else brought up, if we needed depth at the line, we would have drafted or signed some. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

07-22-2005, 08:17 PM	#37
VishsSkins Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2005 Age: 36 Posts: 173	Re: Grim... Theres no reason why we cant be awesome next year. Basically, it all hinges on ramsey. He has everything around him he needs (great RB, amazing O-line, depth at WR, and one hell of a defense) so if things still dont go well, i think its time for him to go.

07-22-2005, 08:37 PM	#38
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Grim... Thanks for all the true fans who really understand the game of football and are constantly optomistic about the success of the team, and are not disturbed about the negative things said by some who do not want to see us be successful. It is difficult for me to understand how anyone who watched the team play last year cannot be optomistic about the team's chances this season. Our record of 6-10 was not, IMO indicative of how this team can really perform. Had we taken advantage of a few more scoring opportunities last year, and scored a touchdown or two more, we could have easily been 10-6. We were not very far off in most of the games played, and what's really exciting is the fact we played our best football against the best teams, Philly-Pittsburg towards the end of the season. With just a little more offence we will go 10-6 maybe 11-5. I feel we've added enough on offence to make up that difference we were lacking last year, and bar a rash of serious injury we will be much improved on that side of the ball.

07-23-2005, 01:52 AM	#39
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Grim... I bet it was some Philly fan that started this thread.....they deserve T.O!!!

07-23-2005, 02:19 PM	#40
81forHOF Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mt Holly Springs, PA Age: 52 Posts: 579	Re: Grim... You guys crack me up! Every offseason we have alot to get excited about. Every offseason I start talking smack to my friends and co-workers who are fans of Philly, Cowboys, Steelers or whoever. I say that this year is going to be different and ramble off a bunch of reasons and stats like everyone has done in response to this post. Then the season starts and every year we still suck! Save from one decent season, we have sucked for well over a decade!! History dictates that Everest3k is much more likely to be close to the mark than any of you guys. I mean how many more times am I going to pump myself up for a huge let down? How many more times am I going to open my mouth only to put my foot in it? How many more times will I enthusiastically throw my heart into the Washington Redskins only to have it stepped on? (okay that last one was a little much). There comes a point that even a diehard fan (and I am diehard) has to say enough is enough....... ..........but, this year may be different. This year we have a wild card. This year we have an ace up our sleeves and his name is Gibbs. When he was hired last year, Gibbs himself said that to turn this thing around was going to take a little time and that it wasn't going to be easy, but that it would get done. None of us have any reason to doubt this man's word. That is why I'm getting sucked into the hype again! As for the media, they are a pack of imbeciles. They all just jump on whatever nonsense is being passed around and reiterate it to death. They would have us believe that a showboat, me first CB who won't support the run and repeatedly jumps to whatever team that will pay him the most, is a more important addition to a football team than a man like Darrel Green. They would have us believe that a man who at one time held every major receiving record in football does not belong in the Hall of Fame. They would have us believe that one of the only men to coach teams to 3 Super Bowl victories is washed up just because he didn't experience immediate success his first year back. Want to do a fun little experiment? Last year when Gibbs said he was coming back the media couldn't get enough of it. After he won his FIRST game against the Cardinals they were calling him a genius!!! After things started going not so well they all jumped on the same bandwagon and said he lost his touch. Said that the NFL past him by and he just won't be able to adjust. (Let me be the first to say that in a couple of years the rest of the NFL will be adjusting to Gibbs!). The experiment part is how many games do the Skins have to win early this season before the same pack of idiots are all calling him a genius again? Five?... Three?.... my guess is One! So don't be so hard on Everest3k - he has every reason to feel the way he does. But as for me...........here I go again!

07-23-2005, 08:55 PM	#41
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Re: Grim... I dont know if anyone else noticed this, but I noticed that there seemed to be more team camaraderie. I mean if you were to watch any highlight film from last year, it seems that the players were eager to congraulate our player when they scored a touchdown. They actually made it a point to do so. As in past I can remember seeing our players score a touchdown and thats it, they walk back to the bench with maybe 1 or 2 guys being happy that we just got a touchdown. I think that when the team mates get excited and congratulate each other after a touchdown it shows team sportmanship, team camaraderie, and team characture... __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

07-23-2005, 11:28 PM	#42
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Grim... It may be better for you 81forHOF if you tried being cautiously optomistic as opposed to making bold predictions. I have a Brother who talks a lot of smack too. Every year he boldly predicts what the team is going to do and when we fail to reach his objectives he's left every Monday morning dreading going to work because he has to face the music. I've tried to encourage him to chill and not "bragg" so much, betting, and loosing his money. I have learned through the years how to be an optomist without going overboard thereby keeping my emotions in check. Every year in the NFL is different. every Sunday is different, and naturally I think we are going to win every game we play though I know that's not being realistic. However I've found this to be a safe way of maintaining my sanity over the course of a sixteen game season.

07-23-2005, 11:41 PM	#43
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Grim... who needs sanity?... its overrated.

07-24-2005, 03:16 AM	#44
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Grim... Honestly, I think it's quite natural for a Skins fan to be overly optimistic, even unrealistic. Who thought George Allen and the "Over the Hill Gang" would have played against the only perfect team in NFL history in the Super Bowl? Who would of thought that John Riggins, who at that time many would have had you to believe was past his prime, along with the shortest receiving corps in the NFL(smufs) to a Super Bowl victory in the closing minutes? Who would of thought that a resurrected Doug Williams, playing on a bum knee, and one-game wonder Timmy Smith would blow out the Denver Broncos....My point is our rich tradition and awesome history has somewhat contributed to our misguided expectations. It's not like we're living in Cincy or New Orleans....or even Philly where they have no Super Bowl trophies. Whether it's been over a decade or not, winning is in our DNA!!!! Hail to the Redskins!!!!! Forever!!!!

07-25-2005, 12:58 AM	#45
everest3k Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 15	Re: Grim... Some interesting responses. And no, I'm not a philly fan. Far from it. I've just been pretty frustrated since about Brad Johnson's last season with the team...(2001/2002 I think...) The last couple of years have really sucked. (though I still watched most every game...). Saying that they sucked doesn't make you any less of a fan. 2 things concern me (in addition to the comments I made in my original post...) I think I heard somewhere that Gibbs had mentioned something similar to, "If it doesn't happen this year, I'll walk away." I like Gibbs alot, and I'd hate to see him go. We'd really be hurting then... second, though I'd like to be as optimistic as most of the rest of you...I ask you this question...would you put a lot of money on them making the playoffs? I lost a box of arturo fuente chateaus last season...that hurt! I'm not so sure I'd throw another bet out there like that again this season. I certainly hope we can pull it together this season... __________________ Go Skins...

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