Hey Ho, Haslett has to go! (or maybe not)

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

You're right Matty I was surprised. What else I find interesting is while Larry Coyer was DC from 2003-2006 his defenses were ranked 9-9-3-8 in points allowed but in the years without Coyer from the year 2000 the rankings are 23-21-15-28-30. Pretty bad. Don't know anything about Coyer but maybe Mike needs to bring him back. I'll admit I was wrong about Mike NEVER having a good defense. But without Coyer those were some pretty atrocious defenses.

Defense was solid in those SB years too.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Defense was solid in those SB years too.

95-17 96-7 97-6 98-8 99-11

Yes they were.

[skinsfan69]

It will never happen but I'd want Greg Williams back. The guy can flat out coach defense. He's PROVEN that he can take a group of average players and turn it into a very good defense. He did that 3 out of the 4 years here and he did it in New Orleans.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It will never happen but I'd want Greg Williams back. The guy can flat out coach defense. He's PROVEN that he can take a group of average players and turn it into a very good defense. He did that 3 out of the 4 years here and he did it in New Orleans.

If I was getting paid an extra $10,000 to break someone's clavicle, I'd be playing my ass off too.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

If I was getting paid an extra $10,000 to break someone's clavicle, I'd be playing my ass off too.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

If I was getting paid an extra $10,000 to break someone's clavicle, I'd be playing my ass off too.

That's excellent!

[53Fan]

Just out of curiousity I checked Gibbs defenses in both stints. Like Shanny an offensive mind that became a HC. Pretty impressive. From 1981-92 and 2004-07 he only had 2 bad defenses. 1988 ranked 26 and 2006 ranked 27. That's alot of years in between. He had 7 top ten defenses including a 1
and a 2 ranked defense. 4 ranked 11. And after his first year ranked at 16, only twice had a defense ranked below 13....which were the 2 bad defenses I mentioned. Pretty consistent.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Just out of curiousity I checked Gibbs defenses in both stints. Like Shanny an offensive mind that became a HC. Pretty impressive. From 1981-92 and 2004-07 he only had 2 bad defenses. 1988 ranked 26 and 2006 ranked 27. That's alot of years in between. He had 7 top ten defenses including a 1
and a 2 ranked defense. 4 ranked 11. And after his first year ranked at 16, only twice had a defense ranked below 13....which were the 2 bad defenses I mentioned. Pretty consistent.

Good work 53! Amazingly consistent stats if you ask me bro. Consider Belichick, a defensive guru, has defenses ranked all over the board from year to year.

[tryfuhl]

Wait till after... Raheem shouldn't be the only candidate

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

when you look at our numbers, our rushing defense is very solid, even with our injuried players out-which says our scheme works. If we revamped our secondary with a new starter at FS, Merriweather at SS, J Wilson at 2nd CB, new #1 CB, and a round 2 or 3 CB or Crawford at the Nickle with both Orakpo and underrated Carriker back in the line up rushing the passer...I think we see a defense in the top half of the league, maybe a top ten.

I think so too. Engage.

[Sonny9TD]

[quote=KI Skins Fan;959300]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Reload the secondary and see if Haslett can do the job. THEN make the decision. Remember, starting over with a new DC and/or scheme will not produce immediate success either. I think we need to see this 3-4 implementation completely through..meaning addressing all 11 positions on D.

Sorry, I'm too old and too smart for that! I want a win this week!

There are things he can do right now but he's too conservative to do them.

It's time to unleash a torrent of blitzes from everywhere on Carolina and see what happens.

That's a great idea.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Wait till after... Raheem shouldn't be the only candidate

WTH ever!! Can his ass too. Sorry Raheem but your guilty by association!!

[SmootSmack]

Never mind defensive coordinator, Raheem Morris is going to be our next HC with Sean McVay as the OC

[Rev.SkinsFan]

I think we all should just pump our brakes for a little while. Let me begin by saying that I have NEVER been a Haslett fan and was not thrilled about his hiring here. HOWEVER, we are missing these starters: FS, SS, OLB (Pro Bowler), LDE. Of course our defense was going to be complete crap, not many teams in this league can sustain those types of injuries and be successful. If we do move to fire Haslett, we should wait until the end of the year, but lets not crucify him for what I call "crap" luck with injuries that we have had all year...on both sides of the ball. I believe Haslett is limited in terms of creativity because you have to have some pieces to do that and all we have is pieces of ****. If anyone should be fired it should be our entire training staff lol

[Monkeydad]

Well to be fair, we were crap on defense in Week 1 with everyone healthy. But you're right, he's not working with a full defense because of our secondary issues.

The injuries are just starting to cripple the parts of our defense that were solid...you know, that whole snowball rolling down a hill effect.

Just keep scoring and we have a chance.

Also, catch the ball!