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[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So ed Reed said he could win 2 SBs in
NEW ENGLAND. HMM he really wants to "stay " in Baltimore

Sounds like he feels under appreciated in Baltimore.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

So ed Reed said he could win 2 SBs in
NEW ENGLAND. HMM he really wants to "stay " in Baltimore

Hoody basically has a man crush on Ed Reed. If he doesn't stay in Balt then he's going to NE.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Sounds like he feels under appreciated in Baltimore.

Not sure what he's expecting. They aren't going to give a old ass safety big money, when they have several other players they need to resign.

[Mahons21]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If RG3 does what Flacco has done, that is...take his team to the playoffs for 5 straight years, a few conference championship games, a dropped pass and a missed chip shot fg away from a SB, and a SB MVP, everyone here would be saying he's well worth the money. It's not all about numbers. Flacco has started every game for 5 years in a row and it's that stability at QB that has a big influence on why they're in the playoffs every year. I hope RG3 can do what Joe Flacco has done.

Giving Flacco far too much credit for team accomplishments IMO.

Flacco is a cog in the system that is the Ravens, he's hardly the engine that makes it run. He's got a top 3 RB, and a downright dominant defense (even with an aging Ray Lewis). IF RG3 had the surroundings Flacco has and has had, he'd be winning a lot more than that.

[Mahons21]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Even if they "restructure" it's still pushing that money on down the line. Eventually, it has to show up on the books.

Not necessarily. Flacco has only about 55 mil guaranteed IIRC, he practically makes that in his first three years, in fact I think he does. After he's received all that guaranteed money there's no money they HAVE to have on the books. Flacco will most likely re-structure at that point, getting more guaranteed money, but gain much less per year.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mahons21

Not necessarily. Flacco has only about 55 mil guaranteed IIRC, he practically makes that in his first three years, in fact I think he does. After he's received all that guaranteed money there's no money they HAVE to have on the books. Flacco will most likely re-structure at that point, getting more guaranteed money, but gain much less per year.

...and what if Flacco isn't performing well enough to warrant more "guaranteed" money of that magnitude. That 55 million still has to be accounted for, and that's the money I'm referring to. They'd still be missing 18.5 mil from that 55 million over the first 3 years. Now, if he's playing well, sure you restructure with more guaranteed money. If he's not, he's gone and you still have to eat 18.5mil.

[Mahons21]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

...and what if Flacco isn't performing well enough to warrant more "guaranteed" money of that magnitude. That 55 million still has to be accounted for, and that's the money I'm referring to. They'd still be missing 18.5 mil from that 55 million over the first 3 years. Now, if he's playing well, sure you restructure with more guaranteed money. If he's not, he's gone and you still have to eat 18.5mil.

Okay, so worst case scenario they eat 18 mil, and that's if Flacco falls off a cliff.

If Flacco continues his play or slightly diminishes in his play, they can spread that 18 over 2-3 years, and possibly increase upon the 18.

Not that bad of a cap hit for the QB position.


EDIT: If he's making 50 million (including his signing bonus) in his first three years, why do they still owe him 18? Am I missing something? I thought his guaranteed number was like 55

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Interesting stuff, I guess this could also apply to RGIII.
Redskins cornerback Chase Minnifield looks to reconstruct a promising career | WashingtonExaminer.com

Fred - I thought the same thing when I read this. The only things I can point to as positives is that a. RG III doesn't have to run an cover like a corner and he didn't have micro fracture surgery which is why the road back to the football field will be tough for Chase.

I also didn't know that he tore his ACL, which doesn't nessecessarily make you believe he is someone we as a team can rely upon to bolster the secondary. When you look at Merriweather, TJ, and Chase there are way to many question marks with health and off field issues there. We obviously need to bolster those positions with healthy and good character talent.

[CultBrennan59]

Mahons and NC Skins.

This article is perfect for you two.


Joe Flacco's record-breaking contract talks in the real world - ESPN

[CultBrennan59]

Mike Shanahan: Kirk Cousins a first round talent | ProFootballTalk

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mahons21

Giving Flacco far too much credit for team accomplishments IMO.

Flacco is a cog in the system that is the Ravens, he's hardly the engine that makes it run. He's got a top 3 RB, and a downright dominant defense (even with an aging Ray Lewis). IF RG3 had the surroundings Flacco has and has had, he'd be winning a lot more than that.

I think there's some truth to what you're saying. But Baltimore did not have a dominant defense this year. The offense was the better unit and Flacco was a big part of that.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Mike Shanahan: Kirk Cousins a first round talent | ProFootballTalk

He needs Flacco money.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

He needs Flacco money.

haha

**We** need flacco money right now

[SFREDSKIN]

@howardeskin: I'm told #eagles will release CB Nnamdi Asomugha 2day after 2 yrs w team. He was to make 15 million this season. He does get 4 mill #fox29

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

@howardeskin: I'm told #eagles will release CB Nnamdi Asomugha 2day after 2 yrs w team. He was to make 15 million this season. He does get 4 mill #fox29

I bet hes having lunch with Bruce today.
:cool-smil