Jay Gruden you are our only hope

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Moses and Long at oline were both seen a project picks where it might take several years. I dont see Moses as a surprise...actually thought overall he was better than expected yesterday.

yeah i didnt think moses was horrible horrible. he was actually better than i expected considering who he is at this early stage and who he was going up against.

Porter and lauvau - both were questionable signings at the time. Porter is by far our highest paid secondary player. browns fans were really surprised a team pounced on lauvau and were happy he was gone ... we see why. he is just a body out there. like many have said. le rib or gettis or mo hurt could just be a guy out there for a lot less money ... that could have been used to sign Ward!

missing out on ward - i admittedly dint know much about his game but he seemed like the perfect guy to add at the time .. not a high high priced guy (signed for 5 mil per?) like Bryd (50+ mil?) but was young, plays well and was let go bc of salary crunch not performance. Ward was the smart man's solution to FS ... and we totally whiffed.

clark - we dangled a basically vet min 1 yr contract to clark who left it on the table for weeks until he saw that he either signed with us or retired for lack of league interest. Clark is what he is. a player that quite frankly, no one else wanted. hopefully he is a valuable contributing member to our young players from Monday to Saturday.

How is that RT from the bucs that the raiders signed panning out? i forgot his name but was disappointed we didnt add him to RT for the next 2 years. He was a LT for the Bucs so he would have been perfect to slide over to LT now that Trent is hurt ...