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Originally Posted by Skinzman

Ah yes... The other thing people try to jump on with Russell, 4th quarter comebacks.

I guess you can beg and begrudge Wilson's 4th q comebacks if you want but you would not only have to parse out Wilson's but every other QBs 4th q comebacks to make a meaningful statement about Russell compares with theirs. Until you do that it is what it is Russell has the most 4th q comebacks since he was drafted.

If Russell has a 500 or less record, does he get the credit he does now?

Not my argument.

You are also trying to make the claim that Seattle had everything in place except Wilson when they were posting losing records. That is not even close to being true. That defense has been great for 2 or 3 seasons, not a chance they were great prior to his arrival.

To be clear. I am saying that Seattle's core was in place before Russell got there. Sherman, Earl, Kam etc. In my previous post I stated that Seattle was the 7th ranked defense before Russell got there. So yes, they were good before. But, everything about their offense improved dramatically upon Wilson arrival to include time possession (from 22nd to 5th iirc) and I' sure we both know TOP is huge for defense, which improved from 7th to 1st.

... Take that defense away and give them an average to below average defense, does Seattle win a SB?

That defense was good before Russell got there and they were mediocre 7-9 with a middling offense that Russell breathed life into.