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View Poll Results: Grade WFT's free agency haul so far (Fitz, Samuel, Jackson)
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Old 04-12-2021, 08:03 AM   #11
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Re: WFT Free Agency

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All-Pro team selected by journalists, not GMs or players or other people actually playing the game or building teams. Grades by groups like PFF often diverge sharply from All-Pro selections. All-Pro is a vanity entertainment award, not an analytic. So saying Scherff All-Pro doesn't mean he is necessarily top-2 at position, especially not in eyes of professional evaluators.



Next man up is $17M a year less. Yeah, they inherited, that doesn't mean they managed it properly.



Let's say he's 2nd best. No way is he better than Quenton Nelson, who is an absolute beast. I would not call it absurd to put him past 6th, he is a mauler run game, good moving in space to run block, but gets blown up on pass protection WAY too much--reason he was moved to G in first place, and there are LOTs of good mauling run blocker Gs. But again, let's even suppose he is better than Quenton Nelson or as good, which he isn't. Nelson has been in league 3 years, has been a 1st team All-Pro all three years, Pro Bowl all three years, and started all 48 games. Hasn't missed a single game. When his rookie deal expires he'll be in prime, having been absolute best at his position every year, with no injuries--maybe you pay him $18M, I wouldn't, but it is at least a sensible proposition. No way you pay that much to guard turning 30 who can't stay healthy or pass block. You CAN find a G 3rd-5th round who can't pass block well but who is a mauler in run game. I'll take a G 75% as good as Scherff for $17M a year less in a heartbeat and our FO should have too.
First, while AP teams are selected by journalists, they are not like the pro bowl selections and are highly regarded as accurate reflections. But since you mention PFF, they have him as 4th, with 2 AFC and 1 NFC guards. Guess what. That is the same as the AP selections. He also was voted to the pro bowl (which i despise referring to) which is voted on by gms, players, and fans - i am also guessing WFT fans didn't flood the ballot box for Scherff. So the only group out there saying he is anything other than a top 5 G is internet mafia types.

Second, next man up isn't both 1M/year and 75% better. Erick Flowers and Justin Pugh are 10 and 8m respectively and maybe are hit that 3/4 mark. $1M for a guard this year (non draft) gets you a guard in the 50 to 60th best slot.

Third, I love when rookie salaries are brought into discussion but that is only part of why your QNelson comment is a strawman fallacy. I don't pay for pff so i could only look at this year, but hear is a cbs note
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One of the most dependable guards in the league, Scherff has never posted a PFF grade below 72.5 in his six-year NFL career.*Over the last three seasons, Scherff ranks among the league’s best guards in nearly every key metric, including a 97th percentile ranking on*true pass sets*and 90th percentile ranking in percentage of positively graded plays. Both numbers are among the most important when projecting interior offensive linemen from year to year.
. The bold is mine. You are simply wrong about Scherff in pass blocking and value overall. As for QNelson, whenever he hits FA I guarantee 17m per year will be the starting point.

Finally, yes you can get a mauler in the draft in the 3rd thru 5th round, and I expect the WFT will draft with that in mind but you don't let the strength of your OL walk first when you can afford not to.

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