Redskins trading out of the 4 spot?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by DIE-NASTY

why draft a rookie qb this year? We'll have to pay him Stafford type money and he won't have a very good line in front of him. We should address the o-line this year with our first overall pick and probably our second and then draft a qb next year when if and when the rookie cap is instituted. Our line will be more seasoned (sanchez played pretty well all things considered behind a good o-line, stafford got the crap kicked out of him because their line is about as bad as ours) and we wont have to pay some PROSPECT Peyton Manning money. And who knows, if we upgrade our line and we keep JC, maybe he plays much better and we resign him which would negate the need to use a high pick in next year's draft on a QB.
Sorry, I feel like I'm beating a dead horse but it makes me feel better.

I too believe and know OL is the main issue. Our's was not one of the best. But the same arguement for QB can be used for OL or any other position. Why draft at position X, no one stands out at that position or only 1 person does and will be taken prior to our draft spot, which means the others are a gamble as to how they will work out in the NFL.

Picking up the Franchise QB in mid to late rounds is a huge gamble. We are the prime example picking up QB's late or UFA's and try them out only to cut them in preseason. I'm not saying you can't get a good QB, I'm saying your chances of finding the Franchise Payton Manning types are slim. You better off taking on of the top few tier QB's coming out of the draft which have better skill sets to work with.

If this was a year in which only a few teams needed QB's and the possibilities of one of the top tier QB's would keep falling into the 2nd round then I'd say wait. But when you only have 2 or 3 top tier QB's then there is a drop off in talent/skill then I'd say take one this year while we are so high in the draft to be able to pick the one we want vs. settling for second best cause the one all the coach's wanted was taken.

In other words let say the team decides to wait till next year to pick up a Franchise QB. Under Shanahan the team actually does pretty well say 8-8 or 9-7. Our draft spot would most likely be moved down to the middle of the draft say 14-17 range. But we committed to holding out till next yr to pick up a QB so we look at the talent and really only 1 QB is worth picking up under the impression that he would be a Franchise QB and he's expected to go either 1st or 2nd in the 1st round. Are you willing to give up the farm to move up to get the QB or are you going to settle for mediocracy and hope for a diamond in the rough or simply say we'll pick him up a year later?

Any new HC will want to get "his" QB to teach or coach to run his system. Look at each HC we've had....

Marty went out and picked up Sage Rosenfels.
Spurrier picked up Ramsey and Hamden.
Gibbs picked up Campbell and Palmer.
Zorn was an idiot but he did pick up C.Brennan and Daniels.

Shanahan will pick up a QB whome he wants cause picking up any General to run your team simply doesn't always work. Plus Shanahan's offensive scheme needs a QB who is accurate, has excellent timing, and can go through their progressions quickly. Plus Shanahan is known for getting excellent results out of mid to late round OL talent.

So I go back to saying if we need a General to run the team then we might as well get him now with a 3-5 yr plan on getting to the play offs/SB. Let Shanahan build his OL through FA and drafting after the 1st round since he's known to pick up good talent by doing so in the past.
If we are upgrading the OL trying to buy more time and protection for the QB, why can't we up grade the QB spot and pick up someone who can read defenses, get through their progressions faster, who has a faster release, and is more accurate as well. This would help the OL out as well.