Tom "Iceman" Brady

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I think the Manning vs. Brady debate is one of the best arguments in football because there is evidence to support both sides, and I actually lean more towards Peyton myself. However, it's kind of funny that the first several paragraphs of your post make the argument that Brady has benefited from a superior team, and his 12-1 playoff record says more about the team than it does about Brady the quarterback. You then go on to say that if Manning defeats Brady this weekend, all discussion on the topic should end, like it's a one on one battle.

How is it possible for Manning to beat Brady when Brady is only a small part of the entire New England Patriots? If Manning throws for 400 yards and 5 TD's, and Brady throws for 96 yards and 3 picks, but the Patriots somehow find a way to win, does that mean Peyton won the battle?

Don't take the Manning defeats Brady clause out of context. All that means is that if Manning beats Brady this week and goes to the superbowl, then the very weak legs that support the winning in the playoffs arguement for Brady fall apart.

Manning is no greater of a QB if he wins this week (well, maybe a little), but I think more people will respect what hes done if he beats Brady. Don't get me wrong, my opinion won't change.

And you are 100% right, its not about Manning vs. Brady. It's about the Pats vs. the Colts. I'm sorry for getting caught up in the moment and oversimplifing.

If Manning throws for 5 TDs and a shitload of yards to Brady's 3 INTs and a handful of yards, and the Pats win, Manning has vastly outperformed Brady. Neither of them win. The Patriots win the battle, not Brady.