Let's impeach the president.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Come on Smootsmack, it's not unfair to ask someone to point to policy successes when arguing that a president will be judged favoribly by history. By your logic we can't even talk about the efficacy of a current president because we lack appropriate historical perspective. I think that's bogus, and I think the fact that so many people struggle to point to concrete things that this president has accomplished is a problem.

Some liberals aren't very smart or articulate, but when they are smart and articulate they do an excellent job breaking down in detail how the Bush agenda has failed. Jsarno argued twice in this thread that Bush will go down well in history, and I don't think it's unfair to ask why.

Look, I don't doubt that W will be judged as one of the worst presidents ever. He's a modern day James Buchanan. Difference of course is that Buchanan did nothing to stop the impending Civil War because he said (rightfully) that the Constituation didn't allow him to really step in. Whereas Bush has essentially said "Damn the Constitution, I have to get shit done"

I'm just saying in overall terms when talking about Presidents in terms of where they rank all-time, it's often difficult to measure their accomplishments until long after. This is mainly because most Presidents aren't in office long enough to see their policies go through. Take Harry Truman, for example. He set the ball rolling on civil rights legislation but nothing truly happened until LBJ. So that's a notch on LBJ's belt, not Truman's. Only now are we starting to see Truman's impact on that issue, and his historical value has gone up.