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[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Do you honestly believe the Civil War was a mistake?

Also, there would be chaos if anyone could declare independence. Hawaii, those nuts in the Michigan militias, and a bunch of others would secede from the U.S. Pockets inside of states, cities, and neighborhoods would be independent countries. Needless to say, everything would be f'ed up.[QUOTE]

Yes, I'd call the Civil War a huge mistake. Other countries were able to phase out slavery without getting over 600,000 people killed.

As to secession, does a battered wife not have the right to 'secede' from an abusive husband? Do you have a problem with declaring independence from an abusive government? In colonial times, you'd have been a Tory I suppose, right?

Let's also consider the words of the 'hero of the union' Abraham Lincoln:

"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable – a most sacred right – a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world."