Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't see why we'd sign Winfield.

He's old, injury prone (now) and only a 1-2 year stop gap. I'd take Hall over him.

Winfield is better than Hall even though he is older. And he will get fewer dumb penalties. and he will cost less than, or at worst the same as, Hall. and we are exactly looking for a stop gap of 1-2 years while we invest heavily in young (ie drafted) CB talent.

For the life of me I don't understand why some are still making Hall out as an effective number 1 CB, he isn't that and he shouldn't be paid like one. If he wants to come back at #2 or nickel back money then fine, but otherwise he and FDavis can go tear it up in the AFC East.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Winfield is better than Hall even though he is older. And he will get fewer dumb penalties. and he will cost less than, or at worst the same as, Hall. and we are exactly looking for a stop gap of 1-2 years while we invest heavily in young (ie drafted) CB talent.

For the life of me I don't understand why some are still making Hall out as an effective number 1 CB, he isn't that and he shouldn't be paid like one. If he wants to come back at #2 or nickel back money then fine, but otherwise he and FDavis can go tear it up in the AFC East.

Same is true of Winfield. I'm still talking about Hall at FS. CB should be high draft pick, not FA given our cap sitz.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Same is true of Winfield. I'm still talking about Hall at FS. CB should be high draft pick, not FA given our cap sitz.

Winfield's play hasn't declined. He'd be a good pickup on a short term contract. Unlike Hall, Winfield will actually tackle people.

Hall at FS would drive me crazy. I couldn't stand watching him, as our last line of defense, getting run over or avoiding tackling altogether. He plays football like a matador and I hate that.

You're right about one thing: CB should be a high draft pick. We should also sign one more vet on a short term deal.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Winfield's play hasn't declined. He'd be a good pickup on a short term contract. Unlike Hall, Winfield will actually tackle people.

Hall at FS would drive me crazy. I couldn't stand watching him, as our last line of defense, getting run over or avoiding tackling altogether. He plays football like a matador and I hate that.

You're right about one thing: CB should be a high draft pick. We should also sign one more vet on a short term deal.

Have you ever watched Hall play in a game?

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Have you ever watched Hall play in a game?

It depends which game. Hall in one game will look great like against Dallas, then the next week will look awful, getting dragged by QB's and getting beat by third string receivers. Because Hall is so inconsistent, it just depends on which game you watch whether or not Hall will be good or bad, Hall isn't gaining much attention for a reason, because teams are not dumb enough to pay him almost 8 million like the skins would have, which is why they cut him.

Winfield would be a great value for the skins to sign depending on the price, a lot more valuable than Hall seeing as how Winfield graded out a lot better than Hall. Luckily the Skins are waiting for the market to settle which is what great teams do.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by donofriose

It depends which game. Hall in one game will look great like against Dallas, then the next week will look awful, getting dragged by QB's and getting beat by third string receivers. Because Hall is so inconsistent, it just depends on which game you watch whether or not Hall will be good or bad, Hall is gaining much attention for a reason, because teams are not dumb enough to pay him almost 8 million like the skins would have, which is why they cut him.

Winfield would be a great value for the skins to sign depending on the price, a lot more valuable than Hall seeing as how Winfield graded out a lot better than Hall. Luckily the Skins are waiting for the market to settle which is what great teams do.

This is it in a nutshell. If Hall played at his top level every game(he won't), and kept stupidity off the field (he's been better of late), then maybe he would be worth keeping, but never at anywhere near what he was going to make, especially in a cap strapped year.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Have you ever watched Hall play in a game?

I've seen every Redskins game and player since 1960 and Hall is no safety.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I've seen every Redskins game and player since 1960 and Hall is no safety.

Hey I am not saying he would be a good saftey. But he was a very solid tackler. He made big time stops all year against the run. Tackling was his best talent.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Hey I am not saying he would be a good saftey. But he was a very solid tackler. He made big time stops all year against the run. Tackling was his best talent.

Sadly, DHall would be an upgrade at FS given how Madieu Williams played last season.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Hey I am not saying he would be a good saftey. But he was a very solid tackler. He made big time stops all year against the run. Tackling was his best talent.

That's an incredibly powerful indictment of his other skills.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Have you ever watched Hall play in a game?

I mean, how many commentators/analysts remarked at Hall's inclination, nay, eagerness to put the effin hurt on the ball carrier last year? He's the toughest corner we've had in a long while IMO. Los could hit too (I was at the '08 home game vs the Browns when Los knocked a guy out of the game). But Los has a pretty big size advantage over Hall.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Winfield's play hasn't declined. He'd be a good pickup on a short term contract. Unlike Hall, Winfield will actually tackle people.

Hall at FS would drive me crazy. I couldn't stand watching him, as our last line of defense, getting run over or avoiding tackling altogether. He plays football like a matador and I hate that.

You're right about one thing: CB should be a high draft pick. We should also sign one more vet on a short term deal.

Yeah not sure where this Hall at safety idea comes from. With his style of play he's best suited for corner. He gambles way too much. Who's to say if he would even want to play safety full time??