Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Let's face it Hall or Winfield are both stop gaps. Even at his age Winfield is the better player and value.

Yes, because a guy who can't make it on the field, is better then one who is.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Yes, because a guy who can't make it on the field, is better then one who is.

Well, to go to the Gaffney/Garcon comment, I would rather have had 9 solid games by Garcon(ie Winfield), then 16 underwhelming performances by Gaffney(ie Hall).

If he is healthy to start the season, which I assume the Skins will check, then I would rather have Winfield playing, and if a rookie has to sub in for a game or two then he gets some experience, maybe we see a guy step up, maybe we see a guy crash and burn, but the cornerback position is definitely going to be a work in progress for the next 2 years easily.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well, to go to the Gaffney/Garcon comment, I would rather have had 9 solid games by Garcon(ie Winfield), then 16 underwhelming performances by Gaffney(ie Hall).

If he is healthy to start the season, which I assume the Skins will check, then I would rather have Winfield playing, and if a rookie has to sub in for a game or two then he gets some experience, maybe we see a guy step up, maybe we see a guy crash and burn, but the cornerback position is definitely going to be a work in progress for the next 2 years easily.

16 bad games by Hall? I still can't figure out how so many people believe Hall played poorly last season.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

16 bad games by Hall? I still can't figure out how so many people believe Hall played poorly last season.

agreed

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

16 bad games by Hall? I still can't figure out how so many people believe Hall played poorly last season.

Because he was inconsistent. He wasn't the worst corner and he is not terrible as some would say, but he isn't consistent enough to be considered good either. He is mediocre at best. Which means he deserves a mediocre salary.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by donofriose

Because he was inconsistent. He wasn't the worst corner and he is not terrible as some would say, but he isn't consistent enough to be considered good either. He is mediocre at best. Which means he deserves a mediocre salary.

We all know his salary was a bad deal for us...but his on-field performance is not as bad as many of you like to claim.

He's a lot better than anyone else in our price range right now. If we can get him down to what we're able to pay right now, I'd be glad to have him back. I'd also like to see another CB like Winfield come in. That would give us the option to use Hall as a nickel CB or even Free Safety where his tendency to attack the ball might suit his skill-set better...less man-on-man coverage and he'll probably have more INTs than ever.

We need to draft some solid CBs and Safeties regardless of who we sign in FA.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

We all know his salary was a bad deal for us...but his on-field performance is not as bad as many of you like to claim.

He's a lot better than anyone else in our price range right now. If we can get him down to what we're able to pay right now, I'd be glad to have him back. I'd also like to see another CB like Winfield come in. That would give us the option to use Hall as a nickel CB or even Free Safety where his tendency to attack the ball might suit his skill-set better...less man-on-man coverage and he'll probably have more INTs than ever.

We need to draft some solid CBs and Safeties regardless of who we sign in FA.

I know personally I'm not claiming anything more than what the stats say, he gave up a ton of passes, and a ton of yards after the catch. If he comes back ok, but he isn't a top 10 or even top 20 CB in this league at this point, and as long as he accepts the pay of a mediocre, end of career CB, then fine, sign him back. But nobody is jumping for him, if they were, we would be hearing it from his agent, or leaked sources.

He's just an average CB with great ball handling skills, who thinks he is a shutdown guy.

I think with him and FDavis, I just want to get the Vinny guys behind us, unless they make an effort to come back. So far, neither one seems to have. (from media perception of course)