Pro-gun article

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

That's the amusing thing about the States with the most stringent gun control, they see the most gun violence. So 'yay' gun control......

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It's a simple fact that liberals cannot understand, yet it's obvious to the criminals. The more you restrict law-abiding citizens from protecting themselves, the easier it is to commit gun violence against them.

Ironically, Chicago is the best example.



"Lets shoot up the mall, no one is allowed to carry a gun in there!"

"Hey, the University is a gun-free zone, not even the security guards are allowed to carry!"

"The teachers won't be able to stop us."

*OR*

"If I anything in that place, there will definitely be someone carrying and I won't make very far...better find an easier place to pull it off."


It's simple, really.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

That's the amusing thing about the States with the most stringent gun control, they see the most gun violence. So 'yay' gun control......

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Rat he happens to be a good friend on mine ,oh yeah and he is a gun dealer. Seems that the idiots are the NRA and the right wing gun nuts he don't agree on gun safety

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

That's the amusing thing about the States with the most stringent gun control, they see the most gun violence. So 'yay' gun control......

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I assume you are being short sighted with this in jest based on your scientific background, but there are more variables at play. For example Dallas found in TX with very relaxed laws has a firearms homicide rate of 9.7 per 100,000 people will D.C. which is very stringent is 5.5 per 100,000. I do agree with your opinion on gun control not having a major impact on gun violence though.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I assume you are being short sighted with this in jest based on your scientific background, but there are more variables at play. For example Dallas found in TX with very relaxed laws has a firearms homicide rate of 9.7 per 100,000 people will D.C. which is very stringent is 5.5 per 100,000. I do agree with your opinion on gun control not having a major impact on gun violence though.

There certainly are:



I'd recommend reading factcheck.org's article, it's very good.

[RedskinRat]

Not sure who is lying to you, GiantOne, but you may want to check your sources before you post on gun issues. You seem to have a very weak grasp of the facts, or no grasp at all.

It's as if you're being used as a useful idiot to further the gun control lobby's agenda.

[RedskinRat]

Agreed, MonkeyDad. Then you add in the supposed 'Wild West' factor of CCW or better yet counties that encourage open carry.

Streets running with blood? Not so much. Lower violent crime rates. Yes.

For anyone who doubts me, rather than read a link I could place here, find your own information. It may help you make a more informed decision.

There was that one utter psycho recently who shot the dude in a theater for texting, but he was a 71 year-old ex-cop. He probably should have been psych-evaled every 5 years, that would have bought to light his alleged rage issues.

[RedskinRat]

Ask your friend how he feels about MD's SB281 & HB294?

I can tell you what the MD NRA thought of it, or you can look it up yourself.

Either way, yes, the NRA have an issue with more restrictive gun laws in MD.

[Chico23231]

So is the answer to just sit on our hands while these mass shootings keep happening over and over? I dont see these ending anytime soon, but its too the point where we probably need to do something. Its irresponsible as a country to sit back and do nothing.

[RedskinRat]

I'll make the same suggestion I did before, Chico23231, be more involved with friends and family. Take note when someone you knows starts to behave oddly.

How many times after the fact do we hear that a person had begun doing 'X' or 'Y' and it was a 'tell-tail' sign.

There's no magic solution, it'll take effort.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

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There's no magic solution, it'll take effort.

One solution is taking guns away from people that should not have them or letting them buy them in the first place .

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Giantone

One solution is taking guns away from people that should not have them or letting them buy them in the first place .

Those who do not know history are destined to repeat it.

"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942,

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." - Barrack Obama, 2008 campaign speech

"I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns." - Barrack Obama
Author Quotes Then-Professor Obama Saying, 'I Don't Believe People Should Be Able To Own Guns' | CNS News

I'm not comparing the two men, yet, but if we don't pay attention to what our leaders say, we may not wake up until it's too late.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

One solution is taking guns away from people that should not have them or letting them buy them in the first place .

But that wouldn't have mattered in the mall shooting right. So how is that a solution?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

But that wouldn't have mattered in the mall shooting right. So how is that a solution?

What proof do you have that it wouldn't have mattered ?




Gun shop owners say no red flags raised on suspected mall shooter | Video | Reuters.com

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

What proof do you have that it wouldn't have mattered ?




Gun shop owners say no red flags raised on suspected mall shooter | Video | Reuters.com

??? your video offers the proof. What the heck are you talking about, this kid bought the gun a month ago, passed background checks, has no history of mental illness, and was of age to buy guns. Name any law passed or vetoed that would have prevented this fellow from buying a shotgun for home protection?

In what scenario of yours would this legal aged sane with no criminal history adult, be deemed "a person people that should not have them"?

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

In what scenario of yours would this legal aged sane with no criminal history adult, be deemed "a person people that should not have them"?

The scenario is one titled 'Nobody gets to own a firearm'. Then GiantOne will be happy.