Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Its a gimmick offense that works.

You're trying to take the hatchet to a system that really only needs a screwdriver.

Some fine tuning here and there and there's really nothing wrong with the offense we have now.

I agree the offense can be just as potent, but it can't be the same offense if that makes sense.

Make no mistake, the offense we ran last year will produce diminishing marginal returns. The diminution is the only question. The main factors here are defensive adjustments and RG's overall health/confidence in his ability to plant, cut, push off.

Some of us are still hoping the gimmick plays were more a reaction to the (horrible) pass-blocking than Shanahan's determination to make our franchise player into a running QB.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I agree the offense can be just as potent, but it can't be the same offense if that makes sense.

Make no mistake, the offense we ran last year will produce diminishing marginal returns. The diminution is the only question. The main factors here are defensive adjustments and RG's overall health/confidence in his ability to plant, cut, push off.

Some of us are still hoping the gimmick plays were more a reaction to the (horrible) pass-blocking than Shanahan's determination to make our franchise player into a running QB.

I am confident the 16 D-coordinators we faced in the regular season thought the same thing.......interesting

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I am confident the 16 D-coordinators we faced in the regular season thought the same thing.......interesting

We didn't face 16 D coordinators

[mooby]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

We didn't face 16 D coordinators

Being a little nitpicky eh? 16 d-coordinators, 13 d-coordinators, not a big difference.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I agree the offense can be just as potent, but it can't be the same offense if that makes sense.

Make no mistake, the offense we ran last year will produce diminishing marginal returns. The diminution is the only question. The main factors here are defensive adjustments and RG's overall health/confidence in his ability to plant, cut, push off.

Some of us are still hoping the gimmick plays were more a reaction to the (horrible) pass-blocking than Shanahan's determination to make our franchise player into a running QB.

I seriously don't understand why, after a full season on this board, and with several excellent football discussions of the specifics about the Shanahan stretch run offense tied to the zone read offense thru use of the pistol, some people still call it an attempt to make Griffin into a "running qb". Griffin is a qb. He runs. Those two facts together do not equal the dreaded running qb syndrome.

There are 11 guys on offense and 11 guys on defense. If you force the defense to play against the whole field, you have a higher percentage of winning plays. It really isn't complicated and it isn't some plot to ruin the health of an outstanding young talent.

[Lotus]

Wrecks has nine lives.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I seriously don't understand why, after a full season on this board, and with several excellent football discussions of the specifics about the Shanahan stretch run offense tied to the zone read offense thru use of the pistol, some people still call it an attempt to make Griffin into a "running qb". Griffin is a qb. He runs. Those two facts together do not equal the dreaded running qb syndrome.

There are 11 guys on offense and 11 guys on defense. If you force the defense to play against the whole field, you have a higher percentage of winning plays. It really isn't complicated and it isn't some plot to ruin the health of an outstanding young talent.

You should have just slapped him with one of these

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I seriously don't understand why, after a full season on this board, and with several excellent football discussions of the specifics about the Shanahan stretch run offense tied to the zone read offense thru use of the pistol, some people still call it an attempt to make Griffin into a "running qb". Griffin is a qb. He runs. Those two facts together do not equal the dreaded running qb syndrome.

There are 11 guys on offense and 11 guys on defense. If you force the defense to play against the whole field, you have a higher percentage of winning plays. It really isn't complicated and it isn't some plot to ruin the health of an outstanding young talent.

It's...just...those...pesky...facts! He ran more than any rookie QB in NFL history, and has the injuries to prove it

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It's...just...those...pesky...facts! He ran more than any rookie QB in NFL history, and has the injuries to prove it

Griffin's injuries come from Griffin trying to get an extra oomph on critical downs. I can't fault him for that, but it wasn't due to the design of the offense. Right before Ngata hit him (on a scramble) he chose to cut inside. Why, because the game was on the line, and he saw an opportunity to make a play. Love his guts, hate his choice. Had he stepped out of bounds, we probably wouldn't be having this repeated discussion, but he chose to cut inside. Every designed run took him outside to the edge, ie get what you can and get out.

His injuries prove he didn't understand how fast and hard the rest of the NFL is. After his concussion, you never saw him do that same type again all season. He got it, he understood. He will do the same with the Ngata injury. But it will be hard for him.

[hutch17]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It's...just...those...pesky...facts! He ran more than any rookie QB in NFL history, and has the injuries to prove it

Most yards not attempts, so that doesn't work.