Official Redskins Free Agency Thread 2013 Part II

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Both times

I wouldn't call those scrambles necessarily.
It was a designed run all right.
Designed by RGII at the last second.
He needs to learn to slide and protect himself.
Hes not Christian Okoye.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I wouldn't call those scrambles necessarily.
It was a designed run all right.
Designed by RGII at the last second.
He needs to learn to slide and protect himself.
Hes not Christian Okoye.

What is your definition of a scramble then?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by donofriose

What is your definition of a scramble then?

Leaving the pocket to avoid a sack.

Granted that a QB would be an idiot to not take advantage of the vacant yards in front of him when that happens, but Bob Griff has a bad case of end zone fever.
I think the Vikings game spoiled him.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I wouldn't call those scrambles necessarily.
It was a designed run all right.
Designed by RGII at the last second.
He needs to learn to slide and protect himself.
Hes not Christian Okoye.

Are you being serious or sarcastic? I truly hope sarcastic because if not then it clearly means you know about as much about football as my ironing board.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Are you being serious or sarcastic? I truly hope sarcastic because if not then it clearly means you know about as much about football as my ironing board.

Totally serious.
And I'll say the exact same about you.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

I wouldn't call those scrambles necessarily.
It was a designed run all right.
Designed by RGII at the last second.
He needs to learn to slide and protect himself.
Hes not Christian Okoye.

Huh? There's no in between, it's either a designed run or a scramble.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Huh? There's no in between, it's either a designed run or a scramble.

A scramble is moving out of the pocket to avoid a sack, most likely on a called passing play.
The difference is instead of being happy with a small yardage gain or just getting back to the line of scrimmage our hero is going to look for a path to the goal line instead. Thats where he gets himself in trouble.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

A scramble is moving out of the pocket to avoid a sack, most likely on a called passing play.
The difference is instead of being happy with a small yardage gain or just getting back to the line of scrimmage our hero is going to look for a path to the goal line instead. Thats where he gets himself in trouble.

Well at least we can finally agree what a scramble is. When he was hurt against Atlanta and Baltimore both times it came on scrambles. I completely agree he needs to be smarter when running. That was the point I was going to lead up to, that's it's not always the plays putting him in danger. He needs to do a better job at protecting himself when running.

The tough part is he's so dangerous when running, how do you find a middle ground when it comes to trying to make plays and being smart?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well at least we can finally agree what a scramble is. When he was hurt against Atlanta and Baltimore both times it came on scrambles. I completely agree he needs to be smarter when running. That was the point I was going to lead up to, that's it's not always the plays putting him in danger. He needs to do a better job at protecting himself when running.

The tough part is he's so dangerous when running, how do you find a middle ground when it comes to trying to make plays and being smart?

Every time he steps on the field he is at risk. It is like having a exotic car must of the time you drive it safe but some times you got take it for a risky spin.

You can't ever tell him not to take risk in the scramble/running department because that is what makes him dangerous to opposing defenses.

God I can't wait for him to be 100% and ready to tear this league up again.

[Daseal]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Every time he steps on the field he is at risk. It is like having a exotic car must of the time you drive it safe but some times you got take it for a risky spin.

You can't ever tell him not to take risk in the scramble/running department because that is what makes him dangerous to opposing defenses.

God I can't wait for him to be 100% and ready to tear this league up again.

I agree for the most part, however, RG3 took a lot of unnecessary hits. You'd see him head towards the sideline for a nice gain, then cut BACK into traffic and take a hit for an extra couple yards. I appreciate his fight, but really want him to understand that running out of bounds, sliding, and throwing the ball away are good plays. I think Shanny took too much heat for not protecting him and RG3 didn't take enough for protecting himself.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I agree for the most part, however, RG3 took a lot of unnecessary hits. You'd see him head towards the sideline for a nice gain, then cut BACK into traffic and take a hit for an extra couple yards. I appreciate his fight, but really want him to understand that running out of bounds, sliding, and throwing the ball away are good plays. I think Shanny took too much heat for not protecting him and RG3 didn't take enough for protecting himself.

I think after the ATL hit he was better about not trying to get a few more yards. The BAL hit he was sliding his leg just came up and hit Ngata. I think they have limited his high risk scenarios but again it is impossible to eliminate all risk.

[Alvin Walton]

Yep, its mostly on him to make more mature decisions when he leaves the pocket.
As far as Kyle calling a QB run, I would not be in favor of that unless a VERY important game was on the line.
Bob has birdie legs, need to keep those out of harms way.