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[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Justin Hunter too

Now you're talking! Hunter has it all now that he has regained his speed. The Skins might need to move up if they want to get him.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Now you're talking! Hunter has it all now that he has regained his speed. The Skins might need to move up if they want to get him.

we won't be 'moving up' to get someone. We have little picks as it is. We are staying at 51 or moving down.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

we won't be 'moving up' to get someone. We have little picks as it is. We are staying at 51 or moving down.

Don't be so sure of that. If they decide that Hunter is the playmaker they want, they'll have to move up to get him. Much more dramatic moves have been made in the draft.

In fact, I'm so sure that the Skins will go after the specific players they want this time around that I'll predict right now that the Skins will move up at some point in this year's draft to pick a player they want. They might even trade a future pick to do so (and don't call me Vinny).

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Justin Hunter too

6'4" 4.44 40 time almost 40 inches on the vertical. I would welcome him but if we pick him I hope we go defense with the next 2 picks.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

6'4" 4.44 40 time almost 40 inches on the vertical. I would welcome him but if we pick him I hope we go defense with the next 2 picks.

Torn ACL in 2010 which hurt his speed since then noticeably. And he has Julio jones hands. Not saying I don't want him but Id go DB over him unless all the ones I like are gone.


Also have a crazy suspicion that we will draft Duke Williams before the 4th round.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

So with the news of us possibly going playmaker let me re-do a draft. One with Hunter one with Ellington.

2nd: Justin Hunter (I feel we would have to move up for him)
3rd: Phillip Thomas
4th: B.W. Webb
5th: Xavier Nixon
6th: Kenjon Barner
7th: Ray Ray Armstrong

other 5th was used to move up for Hunter

2nd: DJ Hayden
3rd: Andre Ellington
4th: Duke Williams
5th: Jon Bostic
5th: Xavier Nixon
6th: Kenjon Barner
7th: Ray Ray Armstrong

[SmootSmack]

1.Don't take what I'm suggesting as gospel

2. We've been very vocal about wanting Duke Williams that I question the seriousness

3. Duke may end up going in the 3rd

4. We're not trading up from 51, that I can pretty much guarantee (I think)

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1.Don't take what I'm suggesting as gospel

2. We've been very vocal about wanting Duke Williams that I question the seriousness

3. Duke may end up going in the 3rd

4. We're not trading up from 51, that I can pretty much guarantee (I think)

True. Could be à smokescreen on Duke, but the Hunter/Ellington think threw me off guard.

[MTK]

More weapons more problems... for opposing defenses.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

More weapons more problems... for opposing defenses.

The game is changing. Its an arms race on the offensive side of the ball. How many weapons can you get? Defenses NOT really winning championships anymore. Defense can get you to the playoffs, but teams who can put up numbers and can never be out of a game are the ones doing damage. The ablility to score is the focus these day. Defense that can score or produce turnovers are more sought after than ones that can stop on 3rd downs.

Folks the game is changing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The game is changing. Its an arms race on the offensive side of the ball. How many weapons can you get? Defenses NOT really winning championships anymore. Defense can get you to the playoffs, but teams who can put up numbers and can never be out of a game are the ones doing damage. The ablility to score is the focus these day. Defense that can score or produce turnovers are more sought after than ones that can stop on 3rd downs.

Folks the game is changing.

Yeah I think the mentality now is to have a decent enough defense to get by, while having an offense that can march down the field and score at will. The way the rules are set up now gives almost all the advantages to the offense.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

The game is changing. Its an arms race on the offensive side of the ball. How many weapons can you get? Defenses NOT really winning championships anymore. Defense can get you to the playoffs, but teams who can put up numbers and can never be out of a game are the ones doing damage. The ablility to score is the focus these day. Defense that can score or produce turnovers are more sought after than ones that can stop on 3rd downs.

Folks the game is changing.

You are absolutely correct. Of course, defense-minded old timers like me are disgruntled by this turn. "The game used to end at 7-3 and we liked it that way dagnabbit!"

But, regardless of what I might think, the NFL has turned into an offensive arms race.

[donofriose]

Maybe they are looking for the best players instead of drafting players solely based on need.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Outside of the top few picks in the 1st round no team knows what they'll do exactly. They know what they want to to happen; but the draft is all about contingencies and adjustments. I think they'll go best player available. I don't think its predetermined if they go 2nd round WR 3rd round DB etc. I think they'll go BPA and the draft will play out.

And I think every team wants to give their QB more weapons. But, I think this draft sets up quite nicely to improve the weakest unit on the team. And on the whole I think there is much easier and nets a greater impact from improve upon a poor unit then trying to improve an already elite unit like the offense.

I don't think our offense is "elite " I think it's very good. The saints, pats , broncos and packers have elite offenses IMO.

[30gut]

#1 rushing offense
#4 points
#5 yards

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#5 Offense
#6 Passing