Draft wrap-up 2013

[vallin21]

What round Rambo was taken in is irrelevant. The kid can play. He has a nose for the ball and is an excellent deep centerfield FS ballhawk with great range. Rambo never fell in the draft for his play, he fell do character concerns. He's a better tackler than most give him credit for, he forces turnovers and he made an impact everygame when playing at UGA in the SEC. The game @ Florida Rambo missed just 1 tackle which was the Driskel 16 yard run. Otherwise He had a solid game.

What round you're drafted does not indicate playing time. The thing I like about Shanny is that he's for competition. No spot is secure. The best players play whether that's an undrafted FA or a 6th round pick. Bad NFL organizations have a systematic hierarchy that base starting and PT on what round a player's drafted or large their salary is.

I'm not a big fan of Phillip Thomas. He reminds me of a faster version of Chris Horton who's better in coverage. He's too inconsistent as a tackler. That said if Thomas can move to SS; I think that's where he's better suited to play.

Bottom line; it's ignorant to say and determine a player can't contribute because of where he was drafted or can't start because he's a rookie, Especially in April.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by vallin21

What round Rambo was taken in is irrelevant. The kid can play. He has a nose for the ball and is an excellent deep centerfield FS ballhawk with great range. Rambo never fell in the draft for his play, he fell do character concerns. He's a better tackler than most give him credit for, he forces turnovers and he made an impact everygame when playing at UGA in the SEC. The game @ Florida Rambo missed just 1 tackle which was the Driskel 16 yard run. Otherwise He had a solid game.

What round you're drafted does not indicate playing time. The thing I like about Shanny is that he's for competition. No spot is secure. The best players play whether that's an undrafted FA or a 6th round pick. Bad NFL organizations have a systematic hierarchy that base starting and PT on what round a player's drafted or large their salary is.

I'm not a big fan of Phillip Thomas. He reminds me of a faster version of Chris Horton who's better in coverage. He's too inconsistent as a tackler. That said if Thomas can move to SS; I think that's where he's better suited to play.

Bottom line; it's ignorant to say and determine a player can't contribute because of where he was drafted or can't start because he's a rookie, Especially in April.

I get what you are saying, but there is some truth to the fact that for a player to get to the 6th round, most teams will have passed on him 3-5 times, or more. Not that they can't contribute, many do, but to proclaim him a starter off the top speaks as much to a team's current talent as it does the drafted player's abilities. A 6th rounder should not be able to come in, and from the get go be a better player then the previous year's starting 11 defensive players.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I get what you are saying, but there is some truth to the fact that for a player to get to the 6th round, most teams will have passed on him 3-5 times, or more. Not that they can't contribute, many do, but to proclaim him a starter off the top speaks as much to a team's current talent as it does the drafted player's abilities. A 6th rounder should not be able to come in, and from the get go be a better player then the previous year's starting 11 defensive players.

I agree, I'm not saying a rookie late draft pick will start, but lets not say they have NO chance to start 3 months before training camp. IMO its to early to determine roster projections. My first post was responding to the poster above me.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by vallin21

What round Rambo was taken in is irrelevant. The kid can play. He has a nose for the ball and is an excellent deep centerfield FS ballhawk with great range. Rambo never fell in the draft for his play, he fell do character concerns. He's a better tackler than most give him credit for, he forces turnovers and he made an impact everygame when playing at UGA in the SEC. The game @ Florida Rambo missed just 1 tackle which was the Driskel 16 yard run. Otherwise He had a solid game.

What round you're drafted does not indicate playing time. The thing I like about Shanny is that he's for competition. No spot is secure. The best players play whether that's an undrafted FA or a 6th round pick. Bad NFL organizations have a systematic hierarchy that base starting and PT on what round a player's drafted or large their salary is.

I'm not a big fan of Phillip Thomas. He reminds me of a faster version of Chris Horton who's better in coverage. He's too inconsistent as a tackler. That said if Thomas can move to SS; I think that's where he's better suited to play.

Bottom line; it's ignorant to say and determine a player can't contribute because of where he was drafted or can't start because he's a rookie, Especially in April.

I like Rambo, and I love where he was drafted, but I was just saying if I had to pick one I am choosing Thomas. Also as far as being a ballhawk, Mayock called Phillip Thomas the best ballhawking safety in the draft, and a starting free safety in the NFL. He did not even mention Rambo when talking about ballhawking safeties. You usually do not fall all the way to the 6th round solely due to drug suspensions, there is obviously something else going on. But I loved the pick anyway because you got some one with a 3rd round value, a potential starter... in the 6th.
He missed at least three tackles at Florida, one on a screen pass to Gillislee (you can make the argument that he took a terrible angle but in the end he was there, Gillislee cut in and got an additional 15 yards), he also missed one on a reverse. He actually had a great game with a game saving fumble recovery at the end. I was just nitpicking because a lot of people seem to be nitpicking Thomas, but not Rambo.

In the end I love both picks, especially where they were picked and I think one of them will pan out. Its obviously impossible to say for sure which one but my money is on Thomas.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by vallin21

What round Rambo was taken in is irrelevant. The kid can play. He has a nose for the ball and is an excellent deep centerfield FS ballhawk with great range. Rambo never fell in the draft for his play, he fell do character concerns. He's a better tackler than most give him credit for, he forces turnovers and he made an impact everygame when playing at UGA in the SEC. The game @ Florida Rambo missed just 1 tackle which was the Driskel 16 yard run. Otherwise He had a solid game.

What round you're drafted does not indicate playing time. The thing I like about Shanny is that he's for competition. No spot is secure. The best players play whether that's an undrafted FA or a 6th round pick. Bad NFL organizations have a systematic hierarchy that base starting and PT on what round a player's drafted or large their salary is.

I'm not a big fan of Phillip Thomas. He reminds me of a faster version of Chris Horton who's better in coverage. He's too inconsistent as a tackler. That said if Thomas can move to SS; I think that's where he's better suited to play.

Bottom line; it's ignorant to say and determine a player can't contribute because of where he was drafted or can't start because he's a rookie, Especially in April.

Good stuff here. I was thinking about how we get caught up with where a player is drafted. I don't know anything about college players, but from a birds' eye view given how many big-time schools/football programs there are it's pretty reasonable to expect the 150th overall player (for example) to have starter talent.