Joe Gibbs and Veteran QB's

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Gibbs' claim to fame is that he won 3 superbowls all with different QB's.
Keep in mind, none of these will be in the hall of fame.
Think of this too...during Gibbs 2.0 he took 2 very mediocre teams to the playoffs after Spurrier destroyed the team...with an old Brunell and an uninspiring Campbell, not to mention Vinny.
Arguably, more impressive than the Superbowl wins with high talent....take a look at what happened after he left.

Gibbs generally kept his QB's in a long time...he offered a long leash...but he won a Superbowl by benching his starter (against Denver) Also, the year before Gibbs started...they only had one QBs anyways...after Gibbs, they carried only 2...but the drop off was ridiculous. There was no choice for at least the first 4 years...then the backups were usually vets, not young talent.

Brunell was just more accomplished. Campbell hadn't done squat and got sacked a ton because he was slow...at least Brunell could make some short completions without losing 10 yards at a chunk when we averaged 4 yards a run...do the math on that one, it aint pretty.

Gibbs is one heck of a coach, he generally got 3 more wins a season than a team should produce with decent coaching. He never had a superstar like RG3....and good thing...because if Shanny wins a SB with RG3...they will just say it is because of Elway and RG3

Gibbs always got the most out of the talent he had...if anything...he wore the wheels off...he should never be accused on not playing better talent on the bench....can't think of that ever happening in Gibbs 1 or Gibbs 2.0

Like I've always said, Gibbs best coaching in Gibbs I was his final season, he took a team that was so beat up and came close to beating SF in SF. In Gibbs II he took a team that lost his best player to murder, also his starting QB to a season ending knee injury and making the playoffs. Yet people complained about Gibbs II, what he accomplished was astonishing in my opinion.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Like I've always said, Gibbs best coaching in Gibbs I was his final season, he took a team that was so beat up and came close to beating SF in SF. In Gibbs II he took a team that lost his best player to murder, also his starting QB to a season ending knee injury and making the playoffs. Yet people complained about Gibbs II, what he accomplished was astonishing in my opinion.

I definitely agree with your points on Gibbs 2.0. He did the best he could and had Todd Collins roll off four straight to get into the dance and almost knocked off a better Seatle team in their place in the playoffs.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Like I've always said, Gibbs best coaching in Gibbs I was his final season, he took a team that was so beat up and came close to beating SF in SF. In Gibbs II he took a team that lost his best player to murder, also his starting QB to a season ending knee injury and making the playoffs. Yet people complained about Gibbs II, what he accomplished was astonishing in my opinion.

I would also say the 87 team was simply great coaching as well because that was not one of the better Redskin Super Bowl teams. I remember the scab game when Dallas had a lot of their players cross the picket line... and play the final scab game. The Skins had 100% scabs and won the game because Gibbs and Pettibone simply out coached Dallas and Tom Landry. I remember Ed Rubbert (sp) got hurt and Tony Robinson, who had just gotten out of jail was running the wishbone. To me that was the best pure coaching I have ever seen. I think Danny White, Tony Dorsett and a few other starters managed like 7 points against our scab defense.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would also say the 87 team was simply great coaching as well because that was not one of the better Redskin Super Bowl teams. I remember the scab game when Dallas had a lot of their players cross the picket line... and play the final scab game. The Skins had 100% scabs and won the game because Gibbs and Pettibone simply out coached Dallas and Tom Landry. I remember Ed Rubbert (sp) got hurt and Tony Robinson, who had just gotten out of jail was running the wishbone. To me that was the best pure coaching I have ever seen. I think Danny White, Tony Dorsett and a few other starters managed like 7 points against our scab defense.

Dunno why the writers had to make the game in the movie so convoluted. The real game was exciting enough!