Has anyone else completely lost faith in the military?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Weak.

That sort of thinking led to these issues in the first place.

No, its not weak.
I've been there and seen it to a degree. (seen it on a lower level, not participated)

You cant "command" testosterone especially when its combined with alcohol.

If you recall it was the PC crowd that wanted the integration to happen.
Military commanders were against it for these types of reasons.
They gave warnings but no one listened and it was forced on them.
This is the fault of the PC govt we have, not the military.

And it isnt a "type of thinking" its mother nature, bravado and alcohol doing its thing.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

No, its not weak.
I've been there and seen it to a degree. (seen it on a lower level, not participated)

You cant "command" testosterone especially when its combined with alcohol.

If you recall it was the PC crowd that wanted the integration to happen.
Military commanders were against it for these types of reasons.
They gave warnings but no one listened and it was forced on them.
This is the fault of the PC govt we have, not the military.

And it isnt a "type of thinking" its mother nature, bravado and alcohol doing its thing.

Like I said, this line of thinking led to these issues.

You're basically throwing your hands up and saying oh well, when men and women get together shit happens.

Lame.

The military clearly looked the other way for too long and did not have policies in place to discourage this behavior and to properly discipline those that were clearly way out of line.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Like I said, this line of thinking led to these issues.

You're basically throwing your hands up and saying oh well, when men and women get together shit happens.

Lame.

The military clearly looked the other way for too long and did not have policies in place to discourage this behavior and to properly discipline those that were clearly way out of line.

The policies are in place.
However men do not think with their polices.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

The policies are in place.
However men do not think with their polices.

That's why commanders have to.

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

That's why commanders have to.

Oh really?
Then why dont the policies and laws in the civilain sector work infallibly?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Oh really?
Then why dont the policies and laws in the civilain sector work infallibly?

Huh?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Huh?

Since this is a problem in the civilain sector, how do you expect the military to be better at it?

The best commander in the world cant prevent a drunk sailor form getting overly horny and making a really bad decision. They cant follow them around all night.

I dont get why the military gets selective bashing on this.

Some may think they need to be held at a higher standard but they are still people, as are civilians.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

The policies are in place.
However men do not think with their polices.

I'd like to think we have some high functioning individuals in charge there, and not some brain dead cavemen being led around by their cocks.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Like I said, this line of thinking led to these issues.

You're basically throwing your hands up and saying oh well, when men and women get together shit happens.

Lame.

The military clearly looked the other way for too long and did not have policies in place to discourage this behavior and to properly discipline those that were clearly way out of line.

Your 40 these kids are half your age. Your talking young kids living together, tight quarters, etc... and this will happen. Remember a comment can be sexual assult. "Hey baby you have a fine ass" is considered a sexual assault if its an unwanted comment and reported its counted. My guess many of these cases are simple unwanted comment made to a woman.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Your 40 these kids are half your age. Your talking young kids living together, tight quarters, etc... and this will happen. Remember a comment can be sexual assult. "Hey baby you have a fine ass" is considered a sexual assault if its an unwanted comment and reported its counted. My guess many of these cases are simple unwanted comment made to a woman.