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Old 06-18-2013, 02:39 PM   #1
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He didn't just miss a few tackles. He missed more than any other inside linebacker in the league last year

What did we draft guys like Riley and Robinson for if not to give them the opportunity to take Fletcher's role. It's crazy to think we have no one waiting in the wings

He's close to 40 years old. Injuries and close to 40. No matter what kind of stud Fletcher is, Father Time is undefeated

No one hates Fletcher
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Old 06-18-2013, 02:47 PM   #2
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He didn't just miss a few tackles. He missed more than any other inside linebacker in the league last year

What did we draft guys like Riley and Robinson for if not to give them the opportunity to take Fletcher's role. It's crazy to think we have no one waiting in the wings

He's close to 40 years old. Injuries and close to 40. No matter what kind of stud Fletcher is, Father Time is undefeated

No one hates Fletcher
Some fans pick and choose who they praise and who they throw under the bus for example ( Henderson versus Hankerson.
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:08 PM   #3
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He didn't just miss a few tackles. He missed more than any other inside linebacker in the league last year

What did we draft guys like Riley and Robinson for if not to give them the opportunity to take Fletcher's role. It's crazy to think we have no one waiting in the wings

He's close to 40 years old. Injuries and close to 40. No matter what kind of stud Fletcher is, Father Time is undefeated

No one hates Fletcher
He missed very few tackles over the 2nd half of the season, and his foot/ankle still wasn't 100%.

Again, just unbelievable how there's a double standard for new toys/players vs. old. Garcon misses half the season with foot pain and is the darling. Fletcher plays through and gets shit on for it. Dumb-founding.
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:32 PM   #4
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He missed very few tackles over the 2nd half of the season, and his foot/ankle still wasn't 100%.

Again, just unbelievable how there's a double standard for new toys/players vs. old. Garcon misses half the season with foot pain and is the darling. Fletcher plays through and gets shit on for it. Dumb-founding.
No one's s***ing on him. I have nothing but praise for Fletcher. The consensus, though, is that while he has had a very good career, and while he played well last year, he's getting older and won't be able to keep it up much longer. Like Matty said, the vast majority of fans love him.

I guess I don't know where you're coming from.
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:41 PM   #5
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No one's s***ing on him. I have nothing but praise for Fletcher. The consensus, though, is that while he has had a very good career, and while he played well last year, he's getting older and won't be able to keep it up much longer. Like Matty said, the vast majority of fans love him.

I guess I don't know where you're coming from.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:24 PM   #6
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He missed very few tackles over the 2nd half of the season, and his foot/ankle still wasn't 100%.

Again, just unbelievable how there's a double standard for new toys/players vs. old. Garcon misses half the season with foot pain and is the darling. Fletcher plays through and gets shit on for it. Dumb-founding.


It's a testament to Fletcher's tenacity and love for the game that he was able to play through injury, but you shouldn't compare him to Garcon. Fletcher had a sprained ankle; Garcon had a torn ligament in his foot. It's a testament to Garcon that he was able to play as well and as much as he did. To lead the team in receiving while playing with a torn ligament? Impressive.
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He missed very few tackles over the 2nd half of the season, and his foot/ankle still wasn't 100%.

Again, just unbelievable how there's a double standard for new toys/players vs. old. Garcon misses half the season with foot pain and is the darling. Fletcher plays through and gets shit on for it. Dumb-founding.
sigh...did you see the offense when he played? come on man
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:26 PM   #8
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sigh...did you see the offense when he played? come on man
I believe the offense scored approximately one more point per game on average with Garcon playing vs. not playing. That's nice, but not exactly the overwhelming story of awesomeness about Garcon some try to conjure up.

As a comparison, when Fletcher took a larger role in scheming/adjustments and looked better on the bad ankle for the 2nd half of the season, the defense improved a ton. Someone threw out avg points given up by the defense between 1st and 2nd half of the season??

If you're trying to say Garcon is as important to the offense as Fletcher is the defense...no, just no. Not then. Not now. Not anytime soon.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:29 PM   #9
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I believe the offense scored approximately one more point per game on average with Garcon playing vs. not playing. That's nice, but not exactly the overwhelming story of awesomeness about Garcon some try to conjure up.

As a comparison, when Fletcher took a larger role in scheming/adjustments and looked better on the bad ankle for the 2nd half of the season, the defense improved a ton. Someone threw out avg points given up by the defense between 1st and 2nd half of the season??

If you're trying to say Garcon is as important to the offense as Fletcher is the defense...no, just no. Not then. Not now. Not anytime soon.
1 more point per game or 1 more TD per game? Pretty big difference between the two. I get that you hate Garcon for the only reason that you didnt like the signing in the first place. I believe you called him a #3 WR at best at the time of the signing. But to say he doesnt make a difference is laughable. When you are a Redskins fan, its actually ok to like all of them.
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:55 AM   #10
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1 more point per game or 1 more TD per game? Pretty big difference between the two. I get that you hate Garcon for the only reason that you didnt like the signing in the first place. I believe you called him a #3 WR at best at the time of the signing. But to say he doesnt make a difference is laughable. When you are a Redskins fan, its actually ok to like all of them.
Actually, with Garcon v. w/out Garcon was a 4 pt. difference.

Though the average scores per game were only a one point difference, when you factor out the defensive scores and only take into consideration offensive scoring it was a 4 pt difference.
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Old 06-21-2013, 12:45 PM   #11
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Actually, with Garcon v. w/out Garcon was a 4 pt. difference.

Though the average scores per game were only a one point difference, when you factor out the defensive scores and only take into consideration offensive scoring it was a 4 pt difference.
Do those figures include Atlanta and Tampa Bay? He technically played but was hardly on the field. We scored 17 and 24 respectively in those games with Garcon getting 4 catches for around 40 yards between the two and playing a very limited amount of plays.

If we dont count the Atlanta and Tampa game as games he played. With Garcon we scored 30 points 5 times. Without him, we scored 30 only twice. With Garcon, we scored less than 20 only once. Against the Giants on Monday night, where Garcon caught the winning TD. Without him, we scored less than 20 points 3 times.

I was really trying to make 2 points. 1) He does make a difference when he is on the field. 2) Bashing Garcon doesnt help in a defense of London Fletcher. His name doesnt even need to brought up to defend London.
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