Trayvon Martin Case

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

To ambush someone takes planning. To prove ambush you must prove intent.

Ambushed in the sense that he didn't try to run from Zimmerman, he looped back and confronted him.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Ambushed in the sense that he didn't try to run from Zimmerman, he looped back and confronted him.

Stand your ground, in essence.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Stand your ground, in essence.

Ummmm... No. LINK

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by Gary84Clark

Stand your ground, in essence.

The opposite. You can't confront someone who is following you. Get to somewhere safe, call the cops, let them deal with it.

Once someone makes it a physical altercation, all bets are off.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

The opposite. You can't confront someone who is following you. Get to somewhere safe, call the cops, let them deal with it.

Once someone makes it a physical altercation, all bets are off.

are you talking about zimmerman or martin? i am assuming your are kidding and not seriously implying that martin is at fault for not having "gone somewhere safe, call the cops, let them deal with it"... yet the same set of rules wouldnt apply to zimmerman.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

are you talking about zimmerman or martin? i am assuming your are kidding and not seriously implying that martin is at fault for not having "gone somewhere safe, call the cops, let them deal with it"... yet the same set of rules wouldnt apply to zimmerman.

That was a general recommendation: Don't try to confront a pursuer/harasser, you're playing into their hands if they want an altercation.

My take on it is Martin resented Zimmerman following him and thought it would be a good idea to confront him.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

That was a general recommendation: Don't try to confront a pursuer/harasser, you're playing into their hands if they want an altercation.

My take on it is Martin resented Zimmerman following him and thought it would be a good idea to confront him.

i would resent someone following me around to.

and if words escalate to a fist fight ... you cant shot the other person if you are not in reasonable fear of your own life.

not reasonable fear of getting beat up or getting a black eye or reasonable fear that you are going to the hospital .... but reasonable fear of imminent death.