Trayvon Martin Case

[firstdown]

Why is it assumed Zimmerman want a cofrontation? From his past reporting it seems he was more a person who was reporter of these people and not someone who wanted a cofrontation. Seems from Martins own GF he was the one that doubled back around and cofronted Zimmerman.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Why is it assumed Zimmerman want a cofrontation? From his past reporting it seems he was more a person who was reporter of these people and not someone who wanted a cofrontation. Seems from Martins own GF he was the one that doubled back around and cofronted Zimmerman.

id like to know the exact routes each took as well and exactly what zimmerman did from the time he left his truck to the fight.

i read the article linked by someone were it tries to re-patch zimmerman and martin's foot steps but .... it was highly bias towards zimmerman with huge leaps in logic and fact twisting.

to answer you question FD - if guess bc of zimmerman's confrontational words used on the dispatch call as well as the dispathcer telling him to not follow martin.

plus he did get out of his truck which is more than "observe and report" and seemingly followed martin - now im sure the counter argument to that would be that he had to get out of his truck to further "observe" martin bc he went on a foot path where zimmerman couldnt visually follow him in his truck ..

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

id like to know the exact routes each took as well and exactly what zimmerman did from the time he left his truck to the fight.

i read the article linked by someone were it tries to re-patch zimmerman and martin's foot steps but .... it was highly bias towards zimmerman with huge leaps in logic and fact twisting.

to answer you question FD - if guess bc of zimmerman's confrontational words used on the dispatch call as well as the dispathcer telling him to not follow martin.

plus he did get out of his truck which is more than "observe and report" and seemingly followed martin - now im sure the counter argument to that would be that he had to get out of his truck to further "observe" martin bc he went on a foot path where zimmerman couldnt visually follow him in his truck ..

This is one thing that drives me nuts. What makes you think that Zimmerman did NOT heed the 911 dispatchers advice to stop following Martin? To me, it clearly sounds like Zimmerman stops following Martin once the dispatcher suggested he shouldn't.

OTM - lets suppose the facts were:

1) Zimmerman reported a suspicious person to 911; 2) Zimmerman followed and even initially ran after said suspicious person once the person starting running; 3) Stopped following the person perhaps because of a 911 operators non-legally bonding recommendation; 4) Was attacked from behind by someone that was likely the same suspicious person from 1-2 minutes earlier; 5) Was reasonably fearful of life or significant bodily injury during attack; 6) Shot assailant because of fear

Would you still think Zimmerman was guilty of murder? If not, what would have to change for you to find Zimmerman guilty?

Also what confrontational words did Zimmerman use to the 911 operator?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

This is one thing that drives me nuts. What makes you think that Zimmerman did NOT heed the 911 dispatchers advice to stop following Martin? To me, it clearly sounds like Zimmerman stops following Martin once the dispatcher suggested he shouldn't.

OTM - lets suppose the facts were:

1) Zimmerman reported a suspicious person to 911; 2) Zimmerman followed and even initially ran after said suspicious person once the person starting running; 3) Stopped following the person perhaps because of a 911 operators non-legally bonding recommendation; 4) Was attacked from behind by someone that was likely the same suspicious person from 1-2 minutes earlier; 5) Was reasonably fearful of life or significant bodily injury during attack; 6) Shot assailant because of fear

Would you still think Zimmerman was guilty of murder? If not, what would have to change for you to find Zimmerman guilty?

Also what confrontational words did Zimmerman use to the 911 operator?

1) I never said Zimmerman didnt stop following Martin once he asked not to. If he did or didnt, we dont know.

2) zimmerman said Martin was running to the back entrance .. I assume this means away from Zimmerman

3) why do you assume zimmerman stopped running after martin?

4) there is no evidence to support Martin attacked zimmerman from behind. The girl's testimony who was talking to martin at the time said she heard another voice say "what are you doing here"or something along those lines ...... also zimmerman in his own video re-enactment never said he was ambushed or blind sided. Zimmerman said they were face to face.

not sure why or where this "attacked from behind" thing came from. 100% not true fro everything ive seen.

5) just because you are getting punched in the face doesnt mean you get to kill someone.

6) maybe manslaughter 1 or 2 if that is available.

I understand i apparently have a different opinion on this case than most others .. i refuse to accept the fact that you can shoot someone bc they are winning a fist fight.

what ever the jury does, i am fine with it.

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