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Old 07-02-2013, 04:07 PM   #1
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Many? Want to put a number on that or can I call BS on that, too?
200,000 Palestinian Christians is the number which I have seen in most sources.

But my point would hold if the number were one.

Israel oppresses Palestinian Christians just as it does Palestinian Muslims. Therefore criticizing Israel's horrendous human rights record has nothing to do with being pro-Islam.
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200,000 Palestinian Christians is the number which I have seen in most sources.

But my point would hold if the number were one.

Israel oppresses Palestinian Christians just as it does Palestinian Muslims. Therefore criticizing Israel's horrendous human rights record has nothing to do with being pro-Islam.
Please site a source.

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Old 07-02-2013, 07:43 PM   #3
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Clapper apologizes for 'erroneous' answer on NSA


It's ok guys, he's "sorry."


Meanwhile, no charges are being brought up on him for lying to Congress. He isn't even removed from his post for lying to Congress. However, expose the government's criminal behavior and you get labeled a "traitor" and charged with espionage.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:03 PM   #4
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Please site a source.

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Go to the gajillion places online which talk about Palestinian Christians. Who do you think lives in Bethlehem? If you don't know that there are many Palestinian Christians, you really don't know anything about the lives of Palestinians.

You might start your education regarding Palestinian Christians here:
IMEU: FACT SHEET: Palestinian Christians in the Holy Land
Philip Farah: Palestinian Christians Against the Occupation

Given your resistance to recognizing a well-known fact, you have allowed me to yet again point out that Israel has a HORRIFIC human rights record, oppressing Palestinian Christians and Muslims alike.

You can read about some of these human rights abuses here:
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
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Go to the gajillion places online which talk about Palestinian Christians. Who do you think lives in Bethlehem? If you don't know that there are many Palestinian Christians, you really don't know anything about the lives of Palestinians.
I'd like a number, you seem unwilling to admit that the figures are difficult to get. You mentioned 200K although my numbers come out at 143K, a considerable difference.

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I was hoping for something less shrill in its bias. I'll keep looking.

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<point_laugh> pompous ass

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...you have allowed me to yet again point out that Israel has a HORRIFIC human rights record, oppressing Palestinian Christians and Muslims alike.
Horrific and largely false: UN Watch OIC driven BS.

The council has criticized Israel on 27 separate occasions, in resolutions that grant effective impunity to Hamas, Hezbollah and their state sponsors. Obsessed with condemning Israel, the Council in its first year failed to condemn human rights violations occurring in any of the world’s 191 other countries. In its second year, the Council finally criticized one other country when it “deplored” the situation in Burma, but only after it censored out initial language containing the word “condemn.” It even praised Sudan for its "cooperation." In its third year,

The Council’s fixation with Israel is not limited to resolutions. Israel is the only country listed on the Council’s permanent agenda. Moreover, Israel is the only country subjected to an investigatory mandate that examines the actions of only one side, presumes those actions to be violations, and which is not subject to regular review.


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You can read about some of these human rights abuses here:
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights
Can't have those pesky Israelis actually defend themselves in a meaningful way, can we?
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:22 PM   #6
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I'd like a number, you seem unwilling to admit that the figures are difficult to get. You mentioned 200K although my numbers come out at 143K, a considerable difference.



I was hoping for something less shrill in its bias. I'll keep looking.



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Horrific and largely false: UN Watch OIC driven BS.

The council has criticized Israel on 27 separate occasions, in resolutions that grant effective impunity to Hamas, Hezbollah and their state sponsors. Obsessed with condemning Israel, the Council in its first year failed to condemn human rights violations occurring in any of the world’s 191 other countries. In its second year, the Council finally criticized one other country when it “deplored” the situation in Burma, but only after it censored out initial language containing the word “condemn.” It even praised Sudan for its "cooperation." In its third year,

The Council’s fixation with Israel is not limited to resolutions. Israel is the only country listed on the Council’s permanent agenda. Moreover, Israel is the only country subjected to an investigatory mandate that examines the actions of only one side, presumes those actions to be violations, and which is not subject to regular review.




Can't have those pesky Israelis actually defend themselves in a meaningful way, can we?
If you read my links, you would see that I provided numbers including 200,000. If you read my links, you would find information on Israeli human rights violations from Nobel-prize-winning Amnesty International, not the OIC.

But fine, have it your way: there are 143,000 Palestinian Christians who face the same human rights violations that Palestinian Muslims face. So, to bring this discussion back to its start, we know that calling out Israel for its human rights violations has NOTHING to do with being pro-Islam, as you previously stated. Instead, calling out Israel and questioning American involvement has everything to do with justice.

Please learn about the issue before you pontificate more.

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