Dr. Z explains why Skins will go 4-12 (sort of)

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Ok ramsey here it go the D that I believe rank better than Was.

#1 Bal even though they had a baaaad offense (they rank up as the 20) they played 9 games vs 7 top 15 offense scoring teams end held the moyoirty of them including IND (38point average) held to 20 and KC 32 point avr to 24 had 34 take aways alot of them resulting in TD and excelent field posision they held their opponets to a 16.8 point average and help their team to a 9-7 record thats wha ta great d does to a bad offense gives the m mroe wepons to win.

#2 Pitt they only faced 5 games vs top 15 offenses they held them to a small margin had 32 takeaways and you can't arguew that a lot of the 15 -1 season was because of the domination of their D they also had the lowest point per game allowed 15.7

#3 NE we knoe what this D does to opposing offense they fear playing vs this d just ask peyton lol and mcnabb to that matter they allowed only 16.2 per game had an amazing 36 takeaways and faced 7 top 15 offenses.

#4 Jacksonville also helped a subpar offense to a 9-7 season and most of the time kept them in the game or won the game for them the had a 17.5 average a 27 takeaways but played 11 games vs top 15 offenses and in 6 cases didnt allowed them more than 18 points. played with the 29th scoring offense.

#5 NYJ they are manly (and curtis) the reason the yreach the playoffs last year had 33 yake aways held hel teams to a 15.7 point average played 8 games vs top 15 offenses and i n4 cases held them for less that 17 points.

The other ones you can put also in the mix are PHI 16.2 average 28 takeawys played vs 5 top 15 offenses but we all know how that D stacks up during playoffs the y had prove it 4 years in a row, And Buffalo 17.8 point average but 36 take aways 1 of the reason that buff almost made a comeback late las t year (magahee included) faced 14 top 15 scoring offesense.

All of this D generated the tools to make their teams succesfull and even thought they didnt reach the playoff in some cases the had more then a .500 average and alot of them played in the AFC wich we know was 10 times better than the NFC last season and still held their grown.

Hope this help and what your team needs to be better is just generate more turnovers put your offense in more of an advantage position and held your grown vs TOP scoring offenses don't lose key players to injury. thats it.

all those teams had offenses that helped their D's off by keeping them off the field. 5minutes more a game and we still had less yardage and points then most of them. No NFL team goes into any game thinking they don't have to score. And most of our games were 3-7 points difference, meaning that other teams didn't exactly get the type of lead where they could be comfortable.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by That Guy

all those teams had offenses that helped their D's off by keeping them off the field. 5minutes more a game and we still had less yardage and points then most of them. No NFL team goes into any game thinking they don't have to score. And most of our games were 3-7 points difference, meaning that other teams didn't exactly get the type of lead where they could be comfortable.

ok man basing on your points Jacksonville was the 29th best scoring offense or 2 spots above yours baltimore was 20th those ain't good offenses. Now you say you lost the moyority of your games for less then 7 point.

Lets see of 10 games you lost 7 where for 7 points or less, those games where NYG,DAL,CLE,BAL, CIN,PHI and DAL. if we compare the other teams Bal was 4 out 7 Buff 4 out 7 NYJ 4 out 6. the other lost so few game they aren't worth putting here. And based on your analysis hey Detroit lost 6 out the 10 for 7 or less points so that makes them based on that analysis a top 10 or top 5 Def I mean the lost 6 close games.

And of those 7 loses your team had for less than 7 points only 2 PHI and CIN where top 15 offense and only 2 BAL and PHI had winning record and 1 had .500 CIN the rest where bad offenses and buttom feeders in the league AND YES I'M SAYING DALLAS WAS A BOTTOM FEEDER.

So in conclusion in YOUR point of view Washington was the Third Best defense because it lost 7 games to close margins 4 of those games that they lost with this close margin where vs teams with the same or WORST record I Don't get it if your D was so good and it played vs this crapy team why could't you beat them.

They all had bad offense they had a WORST DEF according to your knowledge why couldn't you beet them but hey a least the game was close.

Man again total yard avergae doesn't say how good your D really was the weren't really challenged and they lost games to teams with same or worst records bad offenses and worst defenses.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

ok man basing on your points Jacksonville was the 29th best scoring offense or 2 spots above yours baltimore was 20th those ain't good offenses. Now you say you lost the moyority of your games for less then 7 point.

Lets see of 10 games you lost 7 where for 7 points or less, those games where NYG,DAL,CLE,BAL, CIN,PHI and DAL. if we compare the other teams Bal was 4 out 7 Buff 4 out 7 NYJ 4 out 6. the other lost so few game they aren't worth putting here. And based on your analysis hey Detroit lost 6 out the 10 for 7 or less points so that makes them based on that analysis a top 10 or top 5 Def I mean the lost 6 close games.

And of those 7 loses your team had for less than 7 points only 2 PHI and CIN where top 15 offense and only 2 BAL and PHI had winning record and 1 had .500 CIN the rest where bad offenses and buttom feeders in the league AND YES I'M SAYING DALLAS WAS A BOTTOM FEEDER.

So in conclusion in YOUR point of view Washington was the Third Best defense because it lost 7 games to close margins 4 of those games that they lost with this close margin where vs teams with the same or WORST record I Don't get it if your D was so good and it played vs this crapy team why could't you beat them.

They all had bad offense they had a WORST DEF according to your knowledge why couldn't you beet them but hey a least the game was close.

Man again total yard avergae doesn't say how good your D really was the weren't really challenged and they lost games to teams with same or worst records bad offenses and worst defenses.

wow, you totally missed my point... entirely.. I was saying that no NFL team decides that "this week we're only going to score 7 points, cause thats all we need"... which was in response to your jackassery about how teams somehow decided that they didn't want to score on us and how that was the reason we had a good defense.

Please, if you can't understand what I'm saying, don't post an essay in response to some random arguement you made up... I was also saying that our offense kept our D on the field longer than some of the other teams you mentioned.. notice i said SOME, and I wasn't talking about total yards, i was talking about time of possession. New england, the jets, and pittsburg all have their defenses on the field less than we did... thats all i was saying, i don't know what that rant about offensive rankings and baltimore was in response to, but it doesn't apply to anything I said.

Please stop trolling.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by That Guy

wow, you totally missed my point... entirely.. I was saying that no NFL team decides that "this week we're only going to score 7 points, cause thats all we need"... which was in response to your jackassery about how teams somehow decided that they didn't want to score on us and how that was the reason we had a good defense.

Please, if you can't understand what I'm saying, don't post an essay in response to some random arguement you made up... I was also saying that our offense kept our D on the field longer than some of the other teams you mentioned.. notice i said SOME, and I wasn't talking about total yards, i was talking about time of possession. New england, the jets, and pittsburg all have their defenses on the field less than we did... thats all i was saying, i don't know what that rant about offensive rankings and baltimore was in response to, but it doesn't apply to anything I said.

Please stop trolling.

Ok man the point about offense came about you argument that those team had Offense that helped their D I pointed that 2 also had a bad Offense and the second point came of your argument that "And most of our games were 3-7 points difference, meaning that other teams didn't exactly get the type of lead where they could be comfortable"

So I pointed with whom you lost in a close margin saying those teams weren't that good.

About time of posesion I'm tired will analize it another day if you need that stat also lol