Darrell Green does not support Redskin name change

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by firstdown

My quote.

"I don't but there are plenty of examples of people over coming and moving on with life. The best example would be the Jews and what they have over come. I don't see them rehasing and making excuses because of what happened to them."

Amazing .

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Amazing .

Amazing your so f*cking dumb.

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Seriously. Its sick how they are playing the compassion card over a nickname while they turn a blind eye to the real issues. Guess the name change is an easy fix in their little minds. Them and the self proclaimed indian chief d-bag.
Even the president of the united states who has some power to make some real changes. Ugghh.

[SmootSmack]

I think in some ways focusing on the name is one way for them to draw attention to the other issues. Because let's face it, how many people were even thinking about all the other problems until they said "Why are they worried about the name, look at all the other problems they've got"

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think in some ways focusing on the name is one way for them to draw attention to the other issues. Because let's face it, how many people were even thinking about all the other problems until they said "Why are they worried about the name, look at all the other problems they've got"

We have a winner folks .

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Giantone

We have a winner folks .

Occasionally I make great predictions. (about g1 not ss)

[SFREDSKIN]

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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think in some ways focusing on the name is one way for them to draw attention to the other issues. Because let's face it, how many people were even thinking about all the other problems until they said "Why are they worried about the name, look at all the other problems they've got"

Kinda like how all of a sudden all these people are offended by the name Redskins.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think in some ways focusing on the name is one way for them to draw attention to the other issues. Because let's face it, how many people were even thinking about all the other problems until they said "Why are they worried about the name, look at all the other problems they've got"

Most people are still not even talking about the other issues Native Americans face. Outside of this thread, people just talk about the Redskins name. That's all I've heard in the media. Nothing else. I really, honestly, don't think it makes a difference in the long run in terms of addressing the real issues Native Americans face. Once the name change thing is settled for good - whatever that resolution turns out to be - we won't ever hear anything else about the issues Native Americans face in this country. Up until last week, I didn't know November was Native American history month.

I also believe the name change thing ultimately throws even more negativity upon the Native Americans than what may already be there. There's better ways of getting people to not just talk about the issues NAs face, but to do something about it. I think in the grand scheme of things, the name change issues won't really do much to help Native Americans. I mean, when I'm seeing some guy claiming to be of an Indian tribe who's pretty wealthy, my thoughts turn on what is he doing with his money to help his people. Anything at all? Anything substantial? He's championing a name change of a sports team? What does that truly do for the Native Americans?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Most people are still not even talking about the other issues Native Americans face. Outside of this thread, people just talk about the Redskins name. That's all I've heard in the media. Nothing else. I really, honestly, don't think it makes a difference in the long run in terms of addressing the real issues Native Americans face. Once the name change thing is settled for good - whatever that resolution turns out to be - we won't ever hear anything else about the issues Native Americans face in this country. Up until last week, I didn't know November was Native American history month.

I also believe the name change thing ultimately throws even more negativity upon the Native Americans than what may already be there. There's better ways of getting people to not just talk about the issues NAs face, but to do something about it. I think in the grand scheme of things, the name change issues won't really do much to help Native Americans. I mean, when I'm seeing some guy claiming to be of an Indian tribe who's pretty wealthy, my thoughts turn on what is he doing with his money to help his people. Anything at all? Anything substantial? He's championing a name change of a sports team? What does that truly do for the Native Americans?

For the win

/end thread

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think in some ways focusing on the name is one way for them to draw attention to the other issues. Because let's face it, how many people were even thinking about all the other problems until they said "Why are they worried about the name, look at all the other problems they've got"

Zero...zilch...and nada
Edit : its just this hairbitter (?) guy comes across as more of looking to put himself in the spotlite as opposed to the plight of native americans.
So I am not sure that was his intent, but if that is what comes of it that is great.

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Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Dude, as you almost certainly know, it's been political. That has as much to do with this estranged onieda casino owner having pull in this matter, than his native american connections. Not to mention why the vast majority of people "offended" by the name aren't native american.

I don't expect this to become an issue over voting choice, just saying.

I agree with everything else you said in your post.

I am not offended by the name, but I dont think it matters if you are native american or not. I get offended when I hear someone say something that I deem racist whether it applies to me personally or not.

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Originally Posted by Skinzman

The irony of your post. Russel Means, AIM's first National Director and a former famous actor, called the term 'Native American' racist.

Most Indians want to be called by their tribal affiliation over being called an Indian or Native American. But between those two names, most prefer Indian or American Indian over Native American, with a fair amount of Indians flat out calling 'Native American' a derogatory term. When this country was in control of their ancestors, it wasnt called America, and when it became America, they were kicked off of their land.

If its about the Indians, then lets get Andrew Jackson off of the $20 bill. If we really want to offer Indians a symbolic gesture, lets put Sitting Bull, Cochise, or some other famous Indian chief of the past on the $20 bill.

I saw a show, forget where, about native americans/ indians and andrew jackson. They were referring to him as Hitler and what a disgrace it is that he is on the 20 dollar bill.
I get your point about "native americans". Indian puzzles me too though. They arent from the west indies or India. The term indian in reference to native americans stemmed from a case of mistaken identity - because settlers had thought they had landed in the west indies. Anyway to refer to them by their tribal names - well thats just complicated. Anyway this all falls into the "name vs important issue " deal.

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Originally Posted by firstdown

What the hell are you talking about. Where did I ever say they have "gotten over" what happened to them? The point I was making is that they don't dwell on the past they have moved on with life.

My quote.

"I don't but there are plenty of examples of people over coming and moving on with life. The best example would be the Jews and what they have over come. I don't see them rehasing and making excuses because of what happened to them."

Gotten over = dont dwell, move on.
Edit : would it have made a difference if I had said they "dont dwell" on it?

[MTK]

Really?