Steelers @ Redskins (Pre season game 2)

[firstdown]

My guess is sexy Rex will be our number 3 man again this year. The D Line looked nasty but the Steelers have had O Line problems for years. If I'm correct they one their last SB with a bad O LIne.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by firstdown

My guess is sexy Rex will be our number 3 man again this year. The D Line looked nasty but the Steelers have had O Line problems for years. If I'm correct they one their last SB with a bad O LIne.

Yeah where are all the Pat White fans today? Like him or not, Rex is a good back up QB and is a valuable part of this team.

[CASKINS]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yeah where are all the Pat White fans today? Like him or not, Rex is a good back up QB and is a valuable part of this team.

Right here, I wish there was a way to keep both, honestly I don't want the Giants or Cowboys getting their hands on a QB that can run that pistol.

Well honestly.....the duel between the two should be next Saturday Rex is a valuable piece of the team but he throws interceptions, and Occasionally there's a bad arc on Pat's throws. Should be interesting to watch...I wanna see Pat Play with the second or first team that is what decides if you make the roster or the Practice Squad.

Also on the Secondary, I kinda would like to see Doughty and Crawford get a little more Playing time.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by CASKINS

Right here, I wish there was a way to keep both, honestly I don't want the Giants or Cowboys getting their hands on a QB that can run that pistol.

Well honestly.....the duel between the two should be next Saturday Rex is a valuable piece of the team but he throws interceptions, and Occasionally there's a bad arc on Pat's throws. Should be interesting to watch...I wanna see Pat Play with the second or first team that is what decides if you make the roster or the Practice Squad.

Also on the Secondary, I kinda would like to see Doughty and Crawford get a little more Playing time.

Oh please oh please, bench Romo or Manning for Pat White. We will trade you PW and a 3rd draft pick if you promise to play only him at QB in every game against the Skins for the next 5 years. Two divisions wins in the bag every year.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Oh please oh please, bench Romo or Manning for Pat White. We will trade you PW and a 3rd draft pick if you promise to play only him at QB in every game against the Skins for the next 5 years. Two divisions wins in the bag every year.

Honestly...I'd trade a first for that. It's like a guaranteed 2 wins every year. That's worth a first.

[SBXVII]

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Oh please oh please, bench Romo or Manning for Pat White. We will trade you PW and a 3rd draft pick if you promise to play only him at QB in every game against the Skins for the next 5 years. Two divisions wins in the bag every year.

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<P>I am not saying PW is the next thing since sliced bread but ....</P>
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<P>He's younger then Grossman</P>
<P>Healthier then Grossman</P>
<P>Faster then Grossman</P>
<P>He can run for yards if need be which Grossman can't do</P>
<P>knows the option scheme better then Grossman due to having it in college</P>
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<P>Which all boils down to not having to change the scheme much when you need to stick the 3rd stringer in the game. </P>
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<P>We know what we got in Grossman, a player who will move the ball between the 20's fairly well and then it's 50/50 in the red zone he throws an interception. I'm done with Grossman, burnt out by his supposed brilliance that turns to BS at any moment. Rather he not face the field for this team EVER again. </P>
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<P>Grossman's best in two games was also against 2nd and 3rd stringers, so ... since we already know what we got in Grossman lets start PW next week. Let him start and play against 1st stringers using players that are 1st stringers so all of us can have a fair judgement and see how well he really does. </P>
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<P>Obiously RG3 won't be playing. After last nights scare Cousins should not be playing so we have a decent starter game one if need be. Give PW the 1st quarter and give Grossman the 2nd. I still think PW is better based of mobility but if he throws another pick and the coach's know it was his fault then cut him and keep Grossman. If Grossman throws a pick and struggles but PW does not then that should shut up the nay sayers and Grossman should be cut. </P>

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by sbxvii

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<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>i am not saying pw is the next thing since sliced bread but ....</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>he's younger then grossman</p>
<p>healthier then grossman</p>
<p>faster then grossman</p>
<p>he can run for yards if need be which grossman can't do</p>
<p>knows the option scheme better then grossman due to having it in college</p>
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<p>which all boils down to not having to change the scheme much when you need to stick the 3rd stringer in the game. </p>
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<p>we know what we got in grossman, a player who will move the ball between the 20's fairly well and then it's 50/50 in the red zone he throws an interception. I'm done with grossman, burnt out by his supposed brilliance that turns to bs at any moment. Rather he not face the field for this team ever again. </p>
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<p>grossman's best in two games was also against 2nd and 3rd stringers, so ... Since we already know what we got in grossman lets start pw next week. Let him start and play against 1st stringers using players that are 1st stringers so all of us can have a fair judgement and see how well he really does. </p>
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<p>obiously rg3 won't be playing. After last nights scare cousins should not be playing so we have a decent starter game one if need be. Give pw the 1st quarter and give grossman the 2nd. I still think pw is better based of mobility but if he throws another pick and the coach's know it was his fault then cut him and keep grossman. If grossman throws a pick and struggles but pw does not then that should shut up the nay sayers and grossman should be cut. </p>

pw cannot pass!

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I am not saying PW is the next thing since sliced bread but ....
- He's younger then Grossman
- Healthier then Grossman
- Faster then Grossman

He can run for yards if need be which Grossman can't do and knows the option scheme better then Grossman due to having it in college.

Which all boils down to not having to change the scheme much when you need to stick the 3rd stringer in the game.

The only salient truth to your assertions is that White is faster and more mobile than Grossman. The underlying fallacy in your argument, however, is that our “scheme” is not a college based option run game supplemented by a short passing game (as White ran at WVU).

Rather, as many more knowledgeable than I have set forth ad nauseum, our “scheme” is Shanahan’s traditional play-action game reliant a strong zone run game with deep crossing routes in the passing game and that utilizes boots and roll-outs to supplement the play action with a deep sideline passing game. The pistol/read option is simply a wrinkle that further exploits the deep middle of the field in the passing game while simultaneously threatening the outside zone in the run game. Although White can threaten the outside zone as a runner, to be effective in Shanny's option scheme, White must simultaneously and consistently threaten the deep middle and deep sideline in the passing game. White is simply incapable of doing so.

White’s greater mobility (1) does not make up for his candy-ass arm and other shortcomings as a passer and (2) does not, in and of itself, make him a better “scheme-fit” for our offense. On the other hand, even lacking mobility, Rex is better able to exploit the deep middle opened up by play action and has enough functional mobility to execute the roll-out off the play action and complete the deep sideline patterns that PW simply cannot throw.

As for the rest of your arguments, yes … Sexy Rexy is a known and flawed entity. Regardless, Rex creates opportunities to win from any point on the field that White does not. It’s just that simple.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by CASKINS

...I wanna see Pat Play with the second or first team that is what decides if you make the roster or the Practice Squad...

He's not eligible for the practice squad.

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Oh please oh please, bench Romo or Manning for Pat White. We will trade you PW and a 3rd draft pick if you promise to play only him at QB in every game against the Skins for the next 5 years. Two divisions wins in the bag every year.

Nice.