Bills vs. Redskins Gameday Thread

[CultBrennan59]

I hope we lose to Tampa on Thursday, because teams that go 4-0 in the preseason don't tend to do good in the regular season.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I hope we lose to Tampa on Thursday, because teams that go 4-0 in the preseason don't tend to do good in the regular season.

I think that's because a lot of times coaches that go 4-0 are focused on winning, and playing their starters well past the point the other team has, just to get a winning feeling. This 4-0 (if we win) would feel different to me, because we have often been playing our 2's against the other team's 1s, 3's against 2's, etc. I think winning in pre-season, not a Spurrier type win where you plan/play as if it was a regular season game against an opponent who's just evaluating talent, can show that pure depth of a team is in good shape. That's what I think this preseason is saying about the Redskins.

Your statement did make me wonder what the actual numbers were, so without further ado, and thanks to Google smarts, here is an interesting breakdown from wiki answers

Since 1978 there have been 33 or so Super Bowl winners. 60 teams have gone undefeated in the preseason, 61 have gone winless.

Of the 60 Undefeateds:
31 made the playoffs. (52%)
7 of those lost in the Wild Card Round. (12%)
12 lost in the Divisional Round. (20%)
6 (3 and 3) lost in either the NFC/AFC Championship. (10%)
3 lost in the Super Bowl. (5%)
2 won the Super Bowl. (3.33%)

Of the 61 Winless:
8 made the playoffs. (13%)
2 of those lost in the Wild Card Round. (3.33%)
2 more lost in the Divisional Round. (3.33%)
1 lost in the NFC Championship. (1.66%)
2 more lost in the Super Bowl. (3.33%)
1 won it all. (1.66%)

Of the teams that split one way or the other I would imagine there are not many conclusions to draw based purely on record. In those 33 years there would have been approximately 977 teams.

Of those 977 teams:
About 362 made the playoffs. (37%)
18 lost in the Wild Card (7.5%)
39 lost in the Divisional Round (16%)
66 lost in the NFC/AFC Championship (6.75%)
33 lost in the Super Bowl (3.44%)
33 won the Super Bowl (3.44%)

This shows a pretty stark difference in the percentages of getting to the playoffs for undefeated versus winless teams in the preseason. Sample size of 60 or so is pretty decent for considering how drastic the changes are (50% better chance of making the playoffs if undefeated versus split record/winless and 65% less chance if winless versus split record/undefeated).

note that the 1982 Skins are the only team to go 0-4 in preseason and win the superbowl.

[RedskinRat]

I'd like to see the Skins win all the preseason games, but not at the expense of any regular season games. Start the 'Unbeatable' attitude and continue it through to the Super Bowl. Why not?

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

I'd like to see the Skins win all the preseason games, but not at the expense of any regular season games. Start the 'Unbeatable' attitude and continue it through to the Super Bowl. Why not?

It feels great, but I really only care about whether our 1s beat their 1s. After that I wish they'd turn off the scoreboard. It's "just" a scrimmage as far as the record goes.

[CRedskinsRule]

I'm pretty sure our 1st's are done for the preseason. And Tampa's as well. The 4th preseason game is so useless. If I were a season ticket holder (I'm not) and the Skins had a home game for the 4th PS game, I would be ticked off having to pay full price for that ticket.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I'm pretty sure our 1st's are done for the preseason. And Tampa's as well. The 4th preseason game is so useless. If I were a season ticket holder (I'm not) and the Skins had a home game for the 4th PS game, I would be ticked off having to pay full price for that ticket.

You might be right ..... I think Tampa's starters are done Time to start thinking of ways to pluck feathers from iggles !

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by budw38

You might be right ..... I think Tampa's starters are done Time to start thinking of ways to pluck feathers from iggles !

T-Minus 15 days until we get to see RG III and the Redskins take the Eagles and Chip Kelly to the wood shed for a good ol fashion welcome to the NFL beat down.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

T-Minus 15 days until we get to see RG III and the Redskins take the Eagles and Chip Kelly to the wood shed for a good ol fashion welcome to the NFL beat down.

Sounds like a winning game plan to me !!!

[htownskinfan]

Just watched game today.I"m concerned about the defense more than anything.Wish Kolb wouldnt have went out so early to test the defense better.He did lead a td drive against us to tie it up and he's not that good.The other qbs they put in were no test for our defense.With our rookies struggling in coverage and our defense missing Jenkins and Jackson when season starts{plus Crawford out for season}My gut feeling is Phillys offense is gonna tear us up and it will be up to the offense to keep up

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Just watched game today.I"m concerned about the defense more than anything.Wish Kolb wouldnt have went out so early to test the defense better.He did lead a td drive against us to tie it up and he's not that good.The other qbs they put in were no test for our defense.With our rookies struggling in coverage and our defense missing Jenkins and Jackson when season starts{plus Crawford out for season}My gut feeling is Phillys offense is gonna tear us up and it will be up to the offense to keep up

That drive was ehh from Kolb. We were off the field if Amerson doesn't accidentally grab the guy's face mask.

[MTK]

The Eagles will be the ones having to keep up.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The Eagles will be the ones having to keep up.

I think we are going to run the ball for a mininum 200 yards. How is Chip's offense gonna get on the field?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think we are going to run the ball for a mininum 200 yards. How is Chip's offense gonna get on the field?

Right, chew the clock, and after a few 3 and outs they'll be screwed.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think we are going to run the ball for a mininum 200 yards. How is Chip's offense gonna get on the field?

I think you are spot on here. They have a rushing defense which struggled from last year throughout this year's preseason. We have a great running game. Ergo: we run all over them, keeping Vick on the bench.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The Eagles will be the ones having to keep up.

I hope your right
I've been out of the loop on Cousins,is he ok to play in 1 st game if something happens to RG3?