Skins vs Eagles week 1

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Good catch 53. That Filthy fan completely forgot about last year. I hope he enjoys watching us play on Super Bowl Sunday.

I hope we all do buddy. :-)
I think CB59 may need some valium.

[CultBrennan59]

You probably didn't read my Entire post.

Just making sure I keep the site balanced with optimism and pessimism.

I gotta keep being a negative nancy, it worked for us last year when I was posting my pessimism/realistic comments during our 7 game winning streak. I'm gonna continue to do it this year. A weekly negative nancy post.

[CultBrennan59]

Kyle Shanahan explains the secret to Washington's read-option success | The MMQB with Peter King

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The thing which keeps bothering me going into this game is that a lot of Skins fans (including myself) are overly confident. Some people are predicting an onslaught of points.

Another thing that worries me about the Eagles is McCoy, Vick and DeSean Jackson. Those guys, we rarely play all 3 of them at once, because one of those guys is usually hurt. Well we get all 3 of them healthy at once. These 3 are very explosive. A rookie safety and injury riddled strong safety doesn't help stop those 3 players.

A lot of people have mentioned, and I'd have to agree, that McCoy in the zone read/stretch zone is going to be scary and tough to stop. He's already shifty and elusive as hell in a normal offense. I just have visions of McCoy in the open field and Rambo and him are 1 on 1 and McCoy just jukes the hell out of Rambo for a long TD run.

Vick has said that he feels like Chip Kelly has made him a better QB again by putting him in the pass happy offense. We shall see if he's playing like the Vick of old (2010, 2004) or the Vick of the past few years. Lets not forget, he can still run, and we don't fair well against Vick as a starter, history has shown.

Another side of this game to think about is the star player, RG3. He hasn't played in a game in 8 months. He hasn't taken a hit or sack in 8 months. He's going to be rusty to start off the game. His teammates haven't been catching passes with him under center 11 on 11, up until this past week when he was cleared to practice. Its going to be a matter of when will the rust come off? The first snap? The first series? first quarter? first game? I remember Tom Brady a few years ago coming off a torn ACL and he was clearly freaked out and not himself going against the Bills (ironically they were featuring their new up tempo offense as well).

The other thing we need to think about is the Zorn effect.
You're confused, by 'Zorn Effect', what I'm saying is the effect of having a new head coach with an unknown system. We think we know what Kelly is going to run in the NFL, but we still have no clue what he's going to call on certain downs. Just like Zorn other teams didn't know Zorn had the guts to call a draw on 4th and 2 from the 48. They didn't know Zorn would call trick plays on special teams. But like all new head coaches, they are figured out by about the midway point of the season when all teams have enough tape to figure out new coaches plays and tendencies. They problem is the we don't play our first game against Philly after week 8, we play them week 1. That is eerily concerning.

Whats to say the eagles don't start hot, RG3 is slightly rusty 2 series in and we start panicking early on forcing plays or stupid fumbles or penalties then the whole game we're playing catch up to a potentially explosive offense, while Phillys crap defense can play a bend but don't break approach with a 14-0 lead..

(I'm just saying this to play the cautious side of things. I still think we win big)

All good points. I expect Philly to score points and move the ball on us. I just expect us to score more. But this will be a close game. Count on it. But of course I hope I'm wrong.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

You probably didn't read my Entire post.

Just making sure I keep the site balanced with optimism and pessimism.

I gotta keep being a negative nancy, it worked for us last year when I was posting my pessimism/realistic comments during our 7 game winning streak. I'm gonna continue to do it this year. A weekly negative nancy post.

In the past you actively rooted for the Redskins to lose. That goes well beyond "negative nancy." That's Cowboys fan territory.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Kyle Shanahan explains the secret to Washington's read-option success | The MMQB with Peter King

Good stuff nice read.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

You probably didn't read my Entire post.

Just making sure I keep the site balanced with optimism and pessimism.

I gotta keep being a negative nancy, it worked for us last year when I was posting my pessimism/realistic comments during our 7 game winning streak. I'm gonna continue to do it this year. A weekly negative nancy post.

Whatever floats your boat. Do you think Patriot fans have a weekly negative post? Maybe this year they start.

Skins fans, I include my self, need to realize this is not the 2000-2010 Skins anymore. There is a quality staff (not just BA/MS, but across the board) and they are developing dynamic young talent. Negative nancy's will be lacking in material this year.

[CRedskinsRule]

After decrying Negative Nancy's, I will throw this out there. Expect fumbles this year. That was Griffin's biggest flaw, even if they usually bounced our way. Defenses will see that on tape, and attack him more now. Also, the handoff between him and the backs other than Morris, I remember Morris talking about how Griffin holds it so long, and early last preseason, there were quite a few fumbled exchanges.

I think it will take a couple games for those type issues to be resolved.

[MTK]

Didn't we have enough negativity when the team actually sucked?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by calia

This pretty much says it all: Why Your Team Sucks 2013: Philadelphia Eagles

This made me laugh out loud: "Kelly is bringing the Blur Offense with him, and I imagine he'll be in for a rude awakening when he realizes that his offense is terrible and he won't have three straight FCS opponents to help his players warm up for the season. It's gonna be a real treat to watch the Eagles go three-and-out in 20 seconds, give up a 12-minute touchdown drive, and then go three and out in 20 seconds AGAIN. They're poised to lose the Time of Possession battle by a ratio of 1:5. I'm sure fans in Philly will be patient and reserved and give Kelly all the time he needs to work out the bugs in his FIRE HIM FIRE HIM NOW KILLLLL HIM!"

Loved that part too.

"Also, owning DeSean Jackson is like volunteering to have your nipples removed."





Damn, those comments were AMAZING. This is exactly why I don't go into Philly any more. I took my son to a Monster Jam show at the Linc a few years ago and the Eagles fans were being belligerent to anyone with another team's gear on...at a family-oriented monster truck show with little kids everywhere. They're just trash.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Whatever floats your boat. Do you think Patriot fans have a weekly negative post? Maybe this year they start.

Skins fans, I include my self, need to realize this is not the 2000-2010 Skins anymore. There is a quality staff (not just BA/MS, but across the board) and they are developing dynamic young talent. Negative nancy's will be lacking in material this year.

I think every fan board has a realistic fan on it whom other fans may think of or look at them as "negative Nancy's".

I think you got to have realistic/negative whatever you want to call them, fans on every board to 'pump the brakes' per say, for all the other overly optimistic fans. Because if its a loss, we all know it'll be an even bigger let down than usual for those very optimistic fans.

But I do agree we are turning the corner as a franchise, with drafting and Lockerroom leadership as well as better team play. But it doesn't matter if your an awful franchise or a Super Bowl winning franchise, upsets occur. It's the NFL, any given Sunday anything can happen.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The other thing we need to think about is the Zorn effect.
You're confused, by 'Zorn Effect', what I'm saying is the effect of having a new head coach with an unknown system. We think we know what Kelly is going to run in the NFL, but we still have no clue what he's going to call on certain downs. Just like Zorn other teams didn't know Zorn had the guts to call a draw on 4th and 2 from the 48. They didn't know Zorn would call trick plays on special teams. But like all new head coaches, they are figured out by about the midway point of the season when all teams have enough tape to figure out new coaches plays and tendencies. They problem is the we don't play our first game against Philly after week 8, we play them week 1. That is eerily concerning.

You've thought about it too much.

Zorn actually had NFL experience as a very good starting QB and as a coordinator.

Kelly's coming in blind and arrogant. In fact, I only think he came to the NFL because he was afraid of NCAA violations. He's not ready and his offense is not going to work in the NFL.

Besides, the Giants will just slow him down by faking injuries.

[SmootSmack]

What does it matter if Redskins fans are overconfident? How is that a good point? If we lose, I really doubt Shanahan is going to come out and say "Well, the fans were way overconfident. That really hurt us"

[CultBrennan59]

^ for fans sake, coaches don't care. Why would you even ask that?

Side note the eagles are imploding


ESPN NFL - Riley Cooper and Cary Williams, who was critical of WR for racial epithet, scuffle in practice

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What does it matter if Redskins fans are overconfident? How is that a good point? If we lose, I really doubt Shanahan is going to come out and say "Well, the fans were way overconfident. That really hurt us"

This and then some.