Skins vs Eagles week 1

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Meanwhile, the Skins are not the team they were two or three years ago. There is a noticeable talent increase on both offense and defense from the times when "Vick played well against us" or Jackson was running through our defense at will. Additionally, the change in the team's intangibles has been noted by almost all analysts who actually follow the team.

The Eagles and Skins are two teams moving in opposite directions. For both teams, last year was merely the prelude. The bright lights of Monday Night Football are going to burn off the chaff, expose the truth and show everyone the path these teams are travelling.

Hallelujah my football brothers, on Monday, you shall see victory! On that day, football dominance will stand in your midst and you will sing its praises: "A new day is come. A new sun is risen. The glory of the past will once more be recalled and will light the way for the new future! Woe be unto those that challenge our team for they will be as dust before the storm."

... and just to be sure, I am sacrificing a goat.

Dude that was glorious. Joe I think you and I have been drinking the same koolaid. This team is a contender

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Dude that was glorious. Joe I think you and I have been drinking the same koolaid. This team is a contender

There's too much time between now and the playoffs to be saying we're contenders already. But if we head into the playoffs completely healthy, and have a few balls bounce our way, playing in the Super Bowl is very possible. But I think you and JoeR are getting excited too early.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

There's too much time between now and the playoffs to be saying we're contenders already. But if we head into the playoffs completely healthy, and have a few balls bounce our way, playing in the Super Bowl is very possible. But I think you and JoeR are getting excited too early.

We are going to kick ass all year long. Therefore it is perfectly acceptable to be excited in week one.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

There's too much time between now and the playoffs to be saying we're contenders already. But if we head into the playoffs completely healthy, and have a few balls bounce our way, playing in the Super Bowl is very possible. But I think you and JoeR are getting excited too early.

There may be a lot of time between now and then, but there are a few teams right now that I consider contenders for the Super Bowl. And as of now we are one of them. We all know that a lot of things need to fall in place for any SB team by the time the playoffs roll around, but I still believe we have a chance.

Not an Oak type chance but a ATL or SEA type chance to get to the game. We could be great.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

There may be a lot of time between now and then, but there are a few teams right now that I consider contenders for the Super Bowl. And as of now we are one of them. We all know that a lot of things need to fall in place for any SB team by the time the playoffs roll around, but I still believe we have a chance.

Not an Oak type chance but a ATL or SEA type chance to get to the game. We could be great.

Eh...like I said, if RG3 and all the other key players are healthy, and we have a bit of luck, I'm not going to argue that we have as good a chance as Seattle. But we're just not quite to the level of Atlanta, San Francisco, New England, or Denver yet. Next year, I like our chances a lot better: we'll have signed some good FAs, RG3 and Morris will be improved, Phillip Thomas and Richard Crawford will be healthy, and we'll have another draft to add talent.

Once you get into the playoffs, though, anything can happen. If it were a 7 game series like the NBA, we wouldn't have a chance this year. But NFL playoffs are all about momentum and who-wants-it-the-most. So I'm definitely not counting us out.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Eh...like I said, if RG3 and all the other key players are healthy, and we have a bit of luck, I'm not going to argue that we have as good a chance as Seattle. But we're just not quite to the level of Atlanta, San Francisco, New England, or Denver yet. Next year, I like our chances a lot better: we'll have signed some good FAs, RG3 and Morris will be improved, Phillip Thomas and Richard Crawford will be healthy, and we'll have another draft to add talent.

Once you get into the playoffs, though, anything can happen. If it were a 7 game series like the NBA, we wouldn't have a chance this year. But NFL playoffs are all about momentum and who-wants-it-the-most. So I'm definitely not counting us out.

Well all of those teams need the same thing we do to make it that far... Health. SEA, SF, ATL, and GB aren't going if any of their QBs are hurt. And I am not as sold on SEA as everyone in the media seems to be. What's happens if Wilson has a down year or Lynch gets hurt. Who are they throwing the ball too out there? They have a defense but it isn't impenetrable.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Well all of those teams need the same thing we do to make it that far... Health. SEA, SF, ATL, and GB aren't going if any of their QBs are hurt. And I am not as sold on SEA as everyone in the media seems to be. What's happens if Wilson has a down year or Lynch gets hurt. Who are they throwing the ball too out there? They have a defense but it isn't impenetrable.

This is why I don't think Seattle is going to the super bowl (or playoffs this year) is because Wilson, as good of a QB he is, has no WRs to throw to. Its him and Marshawn, but like you said, one of those guys gets hurt (and I have a feeling one of them will this year) that team becomes one dimensional. And as you've said, that defense is good but is very beatable. I would just run the ball on them on first and second down to wear them out, then mix it up with play action to start annoying and confusing the defense. As great as that secondary is, Browner is just big and can be beaten (and badly at times) by quicker WR's, Chancellor is huge as well and great in run support but is sketchy in coverage (both our TD's were scored on him in last years play off game). And I don't know if people saw, but Sherman didn't look that great this past preseason when I saw him play. He was getting man handled by Demarius Thomas when they played the broncos. He was also getting picked on by Ryan and Roddy White in last years playoff game.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Well all of those teams need the same thing we do to make it that far... Health. SEA, SF, ATL, and GB aren't going if any of their QBs are hurt. And I am not as sold on SEA as everyone in the media seems to be. What's happens if Wilson has a down year or Lynch gets hurt. Who are they throwing the ball too out there? They have a defense but it isn't impenetrable.

Your point on health is a good one. But our QB is more likely to get injured.

And I'm not sold on Seattle, either. Plain and simple, Russell Wilson is overrated. He's good, but he is nowhere near as talented athletically as our own QB. And with Harvin injured, they have no go-to WRs. Marshawn Lynch is pretty good, but one offensive weapon isn't going to get you very far. Their defense is really good, but RG3 showed that we could beat it last year. And we did almost beat Atlanta in the regular season. If we get in the playoffs, anything could happen, I suppose. Unless we play Seattle; then we might as well chalk up a win the week before.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Your point on health is a good one. But our QB is more likely to get injured.

And I'm not sold on Seattle, either. Plain and simple, Russell Wilson is overrated. He's good, but he is nowhere near as talented athletically as our own QB. And with Harvin injured, they have no go-to WRs. Marshawn Lynch is pretty good, but one offensive weapon isn't going to get you very far. Their defense is really good, but RG3 showed that we could beat it last year. And we did almost beat Atlanta in the regular season. If we get in the playoffs, anything could happen, I suppose. Unless we play Seattle; then we might as well chalk up a win the week before.

I wouldn't say he's overrated. I'd just say he isn't a better football player as Robert. The only thing he's better at, so far, is health. Everything else, Robert is better at and has a much higher ceiling than Russell does.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Dude that was glorious. Joe I think you and I have been drinking the same koolaid. This team is a contender