Skins v Eagles post game thread

[donofriose]

Yea there are a lot of teams more talented than the Eagles at their skill positions. Especially teams that the Skins would run into in the playoffs, if they made it that far.

[MTK]

Give the Eagles credit, they executed and we just missed way too many tackles.

Haslett said he watched 23-24 game tapes on Oregon so I'm sure the D wasn't caught off guard scheme wise. Fletcher said they didn't run anything they haven't seen before. We just got out played.

[punch it in]

At the risk of sounding repetitive - I cant hear anymore about our Defense - our defense had one bad quarter - the second quarter. We held them to 7 points in the second half and that was on a short field after the int. Our offense could not stay on the field for more than two minutes until midway through the third quarter. Our defense was reeling in by the second quarter and that was by far their worst quarter. If we could have sustained just a couple drives in the first half for any amount of time, even if we came up empty at the end, we probably would have won the game.

[warriorzpath]

I think it's too early to judge anything from this first game. Cliché, but I think at least they tried to fight back and made it a one possession game. Pre-Griffin, the final score would've been 54 - 7. I don't think that's really exaggerating.

The Redskins need to regroup and look at the positives, because it's still one game out of 16. And there's a lot that they can learn from this game. Especially in the way they need to play the eagles the next time.

[VTSkins1961]

The next time we play the eagles it will be a lot different. RG3 was rusty.. that was to be expected. We will slow the game down with our offense to give our defense a chance to catch their breath. Under the circumstances,I'm glad the Redskins fought back. We will have more film on the Eagles as well and will be better prepared. That was the worst start of a Redskins game that I've seen in over 30yrs....but we fought back and made a game of it.

[The Goat]

Only time will tell if this game was a fluke, but a few things are just too constant to overlook.
Piss poor preparedness/discipline. On both sides of the ball. I think just about everybody recognizes this in one way or another. Whether you criticize RG (over shanny) for his injuries because he's not disciplined enough to get out of bounds or look at stupid penalties, it's just ugly part of the time. But my point is it falls on coaching/leadership at the end of the day.
Piss poor protection, which so far looks to have spread to run blocking. This oline is a joke about every other pass play, especially on the right side. As Kyle admitted we masked this last season with the constant threat of the read option. Again only time will tell if they can learn how to protect RG and keep him around longer than a couple years.

Piss poor adjustments. RG is rusty as hell, the oline is Swiss cheese and Helu is hot. So lets keep pressing downfield with lousy routes/formations everybody can cover. I made the comment earlier, shanny has only produced a serious team for half a season, out of three. Tonight looked like the old usual. Too little adjustment too late.

[donofriose]

So basically shanahan needs to go after one loss? Let us not overreact and act as if shanahan should be worried about his job. Yea, he still has to prove last year wasn't a fluke, but there are plenty of games left this year for him to prove himself to the league and the redskins fan again.

[warriorzpath]

Sometimes, you learn what kind of heart you have when you get the crap beat out of you. Do you get back up and still fight or do you just give up? I saw the Redskins still fighting.

Bottom line- the Redskins were unprepared going into the game and they got embarrassed. I think most of the players and coaches were fighting until the end and came up short. I know that this is the last thing in everyone's mind, but they can later draw back from this experience to be able to comeback or just use in games.

There was at least one player that has bad habits when it comes to games like this though - DeAngelo Hall. He reacts poorly or makes a boneheaded play like the 15 yarder. To me that's the same as just giving up. These young dbs on the team don't need to see that. Haslett really needs to talk to him.

All in all though, I thought everyone else seemed to still be fighting. And how much do you know about yourself if you've never been in a fight? I think the Redskins got effed up too much at the beginning to be able to come back but they went down still swinging and I have to respect that. Any real fighter has to.

[warriorzpath]

This is the best way to see how much heart the Redskins have- by seeing how they respond in next weeks game in Green Bay. It would've been nice if the Redskins would've won their game, but nice don't win fights. The Redskins have to start getting pissed off especially being embarrassed like that. They need to have a fighter's mentality.

[warriorzpath]

I think the Eagles offense might do well early on, but I think there's already a formula to beating them. Survive the initial onslaught (like the old Tyson fights) and after they start to catch their breath, then start attacking.

And for the same reason that the Redskins seemed to have stopped using read-option, the eagles will probably need to do the same- the quarterback is left exposed at times.

[Chico23231]

Offense:

It was a tale of 2 halves, by my biggest problem was the Oline getting owned in both departments. Second, RG3 mechanics are effed up. Jaws was right. He needs serious work.

Defense:

Our Safety position will struggle as Rambo learns so thats not a grip. A grip is the bad run defense. Call it a combo of bad tackling and getting handled up front.

So imo the game was really lost upfront.

[warriorzpath]

If Vick doesn't stay healthy, the Eagles offense doesn't work. There's always been a good chance that he doesn't. Now it's more probable with the read-option. Chip Kelly's offense is doomed to fail without Vick.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

If Vick doesn't stay healthy, the Eagles offense doesn't work. There's always been a good chance that he doesn't. Now it's more probable with the read-option. Chip Kelly's offense is doomed to fail without Vick.

Vick is in the perfect offense for him. He was clearly the best QB on the field last night. I don't know if it won't work but he still has the speed to run the ball and that helps it go. But no way is he playing 16 games.

[milellie111]

Even though we loss, I think this was good for us and brings everyone back down to earth.

The fans, yes even me perhaps have been overly optimistic based on us making the playoffs last year and believing that we are one of the best teams in the NFL and Super Bowl Contenders. Everyone automatically believes we are the best team in the division. This team still has holes and much work to do.

RG3- He needed to be slightly humbled. All of the hype surrounding him all offseason was definitely going to his head and you could see it in the media press conferences etc. Sometimes it appears as if he thinks HE is the team. Why should we be surprised though for a young 22 year old rookie star who remains plastered across ESPN and the DC fans treat like their savior and chant "RG3, RG3!!!" Nonstop wherever he is? Hopefully, he's learned something if his expectations were set very high coming into this game and is prepared to work and focus.

Alfred Morris- Another guy who's hype skyrocketed. Perhaps he started believing it. I'm not saying the guy isnt good, but i've been watching football long enough to know you can't "annoint" a guy based off of one year or two. There have been so many rbs who appeared like the next great, and then vanished with a hard drop off. Larry Johnson and Shaun Alexander ring a bell? Again, not saying this is the case, but be realistic and temper your expectations for a late round pick who had one great rookie year.

Wrs- we still need a true #1 WR. Garcon is more of a borderline #2.

Defense= They are who we thought they were. Still getting gashed by the run and destroyed in the secondary. Dont know why so many people thought we were magically going to change this year. Rambo, Amerson, and Biggers all gave us hope of a shored up secondary, but nothing has changed and Jim Haslett continues to look lost.

We "came back", but i think that had more to do with Philly giving us everything underneath for a reason. Tough road ahead with the Packers next week but this loss will show us what this team is made of. If they believed their own hype and the chest thumping of the fans and how everyone was saying "oh Philly is terrible, they are the worst in the division, Chip Kellys offense wont do well in the NFL, Vick is done" then a loss like this would crush them. Or, they can get motivated an go out next week and try their hardest to beat up Green Bay.

Its going to a long exciting season, but i've learned to lower my expectations.

[CRedskinsRule]

no loss is good.