Redskins "Name Change" Volume 10000000

[CultBrennan59]

You can always be a fan of both teams.

You have a good reason to be a fan of both. But if I had to pick one, I'd choose the team that moves to LA. Its like Washingtonians who were Oriole fans and then the Nationals come to town. You don't just become a fan right away and accept the new team in your hometown and ignore the other team you're attached to.

[HailGreen28]

As far as fandom goes, I guess I've been a fan of Joe Gibbs, and the Redskins, as much as any Washington players over other players in the league. I don't cheer for Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Willis, or Calvin Johnson, but I admire them. I root for our team, the Redskins.

I'd still watch and cheer for our current players, but I have a tough time respecting an organization caving into political correctness like this.

More to the point, if the name changes, I deeply resent the conclusion that I and every Redskin fan must be racist for saying HTTR all these years. That's not what Skins fans believe cheering FOR the team, but the implication of the name change is damning. Screw the PC crowd and the organization if the name changes.

[SFREDSKIN]

If it came to the Redskins changing their name and all alternatives were exhausted, then Braves would be only name acceptable. Braves was their original name and it is mentioned in HTTR fight song which had the lyrics changed in the 80's.

Hail to the Redskins!

Hail Victory!

Braves on the Warpath!

Fight for old D.C.!

Run or pass and score -- we want a lot more!

Beat 'em, Swamp 'em,

Touchdown! -- Let the points soar!

Fight on, fight on 'Til you have won

Sons of Wash-ing-ton. Rah!, Rah!, Rah!

Hail to the Redskins!

Hail Victory!

Braves on the Warpath!

Fight for old D.C.!


The previous lyrics (1962 to '80s) were:

Hail to the Redskins!

Hail, victory!

Braves on the warpath!

Fight for Old D.C.!

Scalp 'em, swamp 'um

We will take 'um big score

Read 'um, Weep 'um, touchdown

We want heap more

Fight on, fight on, till you have won

Sons of Washington

Rah! Rah! Rah!

[skinsfaninok]

I agree braves or might as well start over

[SFREDSKIN]

How would Jack Kent Cooke have handled this naming fiasco? He would tell everyone to **** themselves just like Danny has. Changing the Redskins name is like getting neutered, you lose your name, logo, fight song, probably even the band. Special things that make the Redskins unique, might as well go root for the lizards or Wizards.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

How would Jack Kent Cooke have handled this naming fiasco? He would tell everyone to **** themselves just like Danny has. Changing the Redskins name is like getting neutered, you lose your name, logo, fight song, probably even the band. Special things that make the Redskins unique, might as well go root for the lizards or Wizards.

Exactly. Losing all of that. It would be a piece of my child hood robbed by such a small margin of people.

If the team moved I would not be the "fan" of that team as I am for the Redskins. I would like the guys but I would not be buying new gear or going out of my way to watch every game.

I doubt the team moves and I honestly do not see Dan S selling the team to change the name. The Redskins are a piece of Dan's childhood with his dad. I also see the guy as being as big of a fan of the team as we are.

[skinsfaninok]

I'm glad I'm not alone with this bs.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I'm glad I'm not alone with this bs.

How come no one is protesting the Cleveland Indians and having the media calling them the Cleveland baseball team? That's some BS!!

[724Skinsfan]

I can relate to SS scenario. I chose the Texas Rangers as my team because there was not a local baseball team in Washington. My dad told me the Rangers were moved from DC so I said "good enough" and have been a fan for ~30 years. When the the Nationals came to town I thought for sure switching to the home team would be hard at first but would eventually be able to root for them. I'm no closer to being a Nationals fan now than I was when they first started out. Still a Rangers fan.

So if they were moved to another town with a new name I would probably remain with that team regardless if a new Redskins team were formed in DC.

[SmootSmack]

Seeing Redskins: Should media interpret what is offensive?

[724Skinsfan]

I don't know but I find it incredibly hard to believe that a person who's looking for a symbol to denote how cool or badass his team is would pick a bloody scalp. If the origin of the word "redskin" was indeed a bloody scalp how would you sell that to the local fan base? I realize that regardless some people are offended by the term, but is it due to their own wrongful association? Or is it a fierce sensitivity for a conquered people to have to be subjected to the usage of their own terms by their conquerors?

If the Russians attacked and conquered us and then, years later, had their sports teams named after something that represented Americans. Would we as a subjugated people not feel bitter towards them for using our representative imagery? Probably...

[CRedskinsRule]

Went to the ESPN scoreboard page to look at the intel sheet on our game, first video that pops up is "is the Redskins nickname racist" ... technically our nickname is Skins, so no I wouldn't think that's racist. As for the rest, I didn't let it play, so sick of the discussion.

[12thMan]

There's this chick who follows me on twitter is having a hot debate with herself, at the moment, about the Redskins. Apparently she just found it was "racist". People are fukcng trip. Like, if it's offensive and racist, no one has to sit you down and explain it. Which by the way, the etymology of the name Redskins is very dicey. From what I've read and researched, it's not at conclusive one way or the other.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

There's this chick who follows me on twitter is having a hot debate with herself, at the moment, about the Redskins. Apparently she just found it was "racist". People are fukcng trip. Like, if it's offensive and racist, no one has to sit you down and explain it. Which by the way, the etymology of the name Redskins is very dicey. From what I've read and researched, it's not at conclusive one way or the other.

I agree, so it pains me to say that the history of the name doesn't matter. If everyone in 2013 agrees that the name is offensive, it doesn't matter what people thought 150 years ago, sad to say.

When a mass hysteria train gets rolling, brakes are difficult to apply. And the mass hysteria regarding the idea that "Redskins is offensive" has left the station.

[fbirks]

If you drop the letter K, the remaining letters spell
SNIDERS
"HAIL TO THE SNIDERS" has a certain ring to it.