Skins vs Packers post game thread

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Hey guys, when does the season start?

What's great is this division is so terrible, 7-9 could win it.

Philly looked like a joke letting an average team at very best travel across the country to lose at home. Chip Kelly getting outcoached left and right. Cowboys losing a game they should have won, but Reid outcoached them. Dallas refuses to run the ball. Giants could set the turnover record this year and have no running game.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

What's great is this division is so terrible, 7-9 could win it.

Philly looked like a joke letting an average team at very best travel across the country to lose at home. Chip Kelly getting outcoached left and right. Cowboys losing a game they should have won, but Reid outcoached them. Dallas refuses to run the ball. Giants could set the turnover record this year and have no running game.

This is definitely the division to be 0-2 in.

We've been a 7 win per year team in the three years Shanahan has been there. That's the true talent of this team. Two game streaks where we play like a 3-13 team will happen. As will two game streaks where we look like 11-5 and RG3 looks like an MVP. But they'll settle in at 7-9 because that's what they've built.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This is definitely the division to be 0-2 in.

We've been a 7 win per year team in the three years Shanahan has been there. That's the true talent of this team. Two game streaks where we play like a 3-13 team will happen. As will two game streaks where we look like 11-5 and RG3 looks like an MVP. But they'll settle in at 7-9 because that's what they've built.

Well the ghost of piss poor Snyder/Vinny management still haunts this team.

Do you honestly think Fletcher, Polumbus, D Hall and Josh Wilson would be starting on this team if we actually had cap space?

It's a 18 million per year handicap for the most over rated defensive player all-time, Albert Hanyesworth.

It hasnt been an easy build, with no draft picks and cap penalties.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Well the ghost of piss poor Snyder/Vinny management still haunts this team.

Do you honestly think Fletcher, Polumbus, D Hall and Josh Wilson would be starting on this team if we actually had cap space?

It's a 18 million per year handicap for the most over rated defensive player all-time, Albert Hanyesworth.

It hasnt been an easy build, with no draft picks and cap penalties.

Heres the thing though: those guys are the biggest cap hits. It has nothing to do with cap space, those are the veterans who we've chosen to lead this team. If we had not chosen those vets, we would instead have available cap space to bring in others.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Heres the thing though: those guys are the biggest cap hits. It has nothing to do with cap space, those are the veterans who we've chosen to lead this team. If we had not chosen those vets, we would instead have available cap space to bring in others.

Right, but I easily believe Shanny and Bruce would take that 18 mil per and use it wisely to bring in talent at RT, ILB, CB and Saftey. They made choices based on their situation. I dont think the difference would be that great with who they have vs market available at similar price. Issues would still remain imo. With out the cap penalty those I listed above would not be here this year imo.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Right, but I easily believe Shanny and Bruce would take that 18 mil per and use it wisely to bring in talent at RT, ILB, CB and Saftey. They made choices based on their situation. I dont think the difference would be that great with who they have vs market available at similar price. Issues would still remain imo. With out the cap penalty those I listed above would not be here this year imo.

With signings like Meriweather and Josh Morgan, what could go wrong with more money to spend?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

With signings like Meriweather and Josh Morgan, what could go wrong with more money to spend?

2 year deals for average players. I didnt like Meriweather, but better than we had and didnt have any injury history like he has now. Morgan didnt have a horrible year last year, and at the time again better than we had. These arent Archeleta and Bradon Lloyd/Randal El deals. Both over paid vs their production sure but not grossly.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Heres the thing though: those guys are the biggest cap hits. It has nothing to do with cap space, those are the veterans who we've chosen to lead this team. If we had not chosen those vets, we would instead have available cap space to bring in others.

Couldn't get Finnegan due to cap issues. Couldn't get any decent OL on the market due to cap issues. Having 36 mil stripped from you is huge. I don't think for a minute those guys are on the team because of that's who we chose. These guys are on the team because that's all we could afford. Polumbus is cheap. Dhall is cheap. Wilson is cheap. Fletcher is the one guy that bewilders me. I'm still stunned they brought him back at his salary KNOWING he was a huge liability on defense. It's not like they could have afford Ellerbe though, not that I even think he's worth 7 mil per season. (he's not)


Now, if you want to make the argument about Josh Morgan and his salary, that's a different story. Dude is NOT worth 6 mil per season. No way, no how.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Couldn't get Finnegan due to cap issues. Couldn't get any decent OL on the market due to cap issues. Having 36 mil stripped from you is huge. I don't think for a minute those guys are on the team because of that's who we chose. These guys are on the team because that's all we could afford. Polumbus is cheap. Dhall is cheap. Wilson is cheap. Fletcher is the one guy that bewilders me. I'm still stunned they brought him back at his salary KNOWING he was a huge liability on defense. It's not like they could have afford Ellerbe though, not that I even think he's worth 7 mil per season. (he's not)


Now, if you want to make the argument about Josh Morgan and his salary, that's a different story. Dude is NOT worth 6 mil per season. No way, no how.

Can't blame the cap issues on the crappy start. Haven't we done the free agent wheeling and dealing? Been there done that and it's gotten us nothing in return. Well, one playoff win in 05. Sorry.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can't blame the cap issues on the crappy start. Haven't we done the free agent wheeling and dealing? Been there done that and it's gotten us nothing in return. Well, one playoff win in 05. Sorry.

I"m not blaming cap issues on the crappy start. I'm simply telling Gtripp that the guys we have are not here by choice. They are here because we really had no other option due to cap issues.

The salary cap has nothing to do with how we played the first two games.

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Well the ghost of piss poor Snyder/Vinny management still haunts this team.

Do you honestly think Fletcher, Polumbus, D Hall and Josh Wilson would be starting on this team if we actually had cap space?

It's a 18 million per year handicap for the most over rated defensive player all-time, Albert Hanyesworth.

It hasnt been an easy build, with no draft picks and cap penalties.

Shhhh... Don't feed him. Gtripp is like the monkey at the zoo. He's fun to watch, but eventually he starts eating his own shit and flinging it around at you.

[SFREDSKIN]

I wish Tanard Jackson would get re-instated, even if he hasn't played in over a year he would be an upgrade. Time to cut the cord with Meriweather, he can't stay healthy for a game.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I wish Tanard Jackson would get re-instated, even if he hasn't played in over a year he would be an upgrade. Time to cut the cord with Meriweather, he can't stay healthy for a game.

Yea I don't get it, didn't he already serve his punishment? If the commish has no intention of reinstating him then tell us so we can hold on to his rights and release him and fill his spot with someone who can play.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Yea I don't get it, didn't he already serve his punishment? If the commish has no intention of reinstating him then tell us so we can hold on to his rights and release him and fill his spot with someone who can play.

Jolly for the Packers was suspended a few times for codeine and back playing why not Jackson?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

What's great is this division is so terrible, 7-9 could win it.

Philly looked like a joke letting an average team at very best travel across the country to lose at home. Chip Kelly getting outcoached left and right. Cowboys losing a game they should have won, but Reid outcoached them. Dallas refuses to run the ball. Giants could set the turnover record this year and have no running game.

One of the teams will get it straightened out. I thought we would be the one, but after the last two weeks it's hard to say that with any confidence. Detroit/Oakland don't look like piece o'cake wins now (not that any ever do with the Redskins )