Washington Redskins vs Detroit Lions Pregame Thread

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Bucket

What makes you so sure NFL DC's know how to stop the RO? Most of our best runs by Alfo has been on that play this year.

What they use in Houston 5 years ago, is the same thing they are using today.

Couch Coaching at it's finest.

Hows the RO working for us this season?

What's your point about Houston? That offense hasn't missed Kyle at all.

You're my favorite mental midget lol...

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Hows the RO working for us this season?

What's your point about Houston? That offense hasn't missed Kyle at all.

You're my favorite mental midget lol...

He doesn't get it. Lol

[CRedskinsRule]

the whole 3-4 4-3 debate is so old. Our defense showed last year that with a well running offense, we can win games with them. We upgraded at safety (Rambo >> Merriweather). We sustained on CBs. We aren't going to be a shut down D, our old defenses weren't shut down D's, and several times they gave up game winning drives.

This team as constructed can, and should, be doing better. Only time will tell if they do.

[Chico23231]

Bottomline is the defense should be playing better than it is. Everyone is accountable. This defense may have some rookies and some older vets in their last year, but the entire unit is better than its shown on the field so far. Last year run proves that. Haslett needs to do a better job as well, if not he doesnt come back next year fo sho.

[skinsguy]

Two games into the season. There are 14 more games to go. The defense will improve, as so the offense. Just hang in there guys.

[hail_2_da_skins]

The Redskins have to score early. I'm confident the Skins can score and will get better offensively. I'm more concerned about the defense. This is the worse defense in the NFL. Receivers are wide open. The tackling is horrendous. The defensive scheme is horrible. I'm not confident this can be turned around quickly. Hasslet's job is on the line.

[MTK]

I think Skip turns it into more of a soap opera than it really is.

[skinsfaninok]

we can never go without drama

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

we can never go without drama

When you're losing, everything is drama.

When we were on that win streak last year, nobody had anything negative to say.

[skinsfan69]

Haslett is responsible for the defense but Shanahan bears more accountability cause he's the head coach. We have an old LB that can't run, no true nose tackle and free agents that are playing poorly. This is one of the reasons he was fired in Denver, couldn't get his defense together. In the end, Shanahan is responsible for every player that plays on the team. To me it's a combination of lack of talent, guys not playing to potential and some poor coaching.

[SolidSnake84]

Someone earlier posted Haslett's defensive rank each of his years that he has coached. It is astounding how terrible he is, to still be a coach in this league. Only twice in his entire career did he ever have a defense ranked in the top 10. Most of his years he was nearly dead last. How can he still be coaching in the NFL? Our defense right now is dead last in the NFL i believe and also may set a record for the most yards ever given up in NFL history. I think they have already given up over 1000 yards so far.

Does Haslett get fired mid season if we continue to lose? Or is the mentality that since Shanahan and likely everyone else is gone after the year if they do terrible, does Snyder just stick with them all. I think Shanahan will have to do at least 7-9 to keep his job. What do you think?

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think Shanahan will have to do at least 7-9 to keep his job. What do you think?

I disagree. Snyder has been ridiculed for his quick hook on head coaches. Even a 5 win season, Shanny should be fine in my opinion based on his offensive capabilities and Superbowl titles.

Haslett on the other hand took some teams down the toilet...remember he was a head coach too...that didn't work out very well. I have reached a turning point with him, he is the weak link, the defense will not improve over the long haul as long as he is here...even if we do get a couple free agents in the off season. I'd prefer a coach that has upside or at least an average track record...I'm sure there will be a solid D coordinator during the off season...perhaps a fired head coach like a ron rivera or a lovie smith (no research done on these guys) or our own Raheem Morris

[Green Monk Machine]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

I disagree. Snyder has been ridiculed for his quick hook on head coaches. Even a 5 win season, Shanny should be fine in my opinion based on his offensive capabilities and Superbowl titles.

Haslett on the other hand took some teams down the toilet...remember he was a head coach too...that didn't work out very well. I have reached a turning point with him, he is the weak link, the defense will not improve over the long haul as long as he is here...even if we do get a couple free agents in the off season. I'd prefer a coach that has upside or at least an average track record...I'm sure there will be a solid D coordinator during the off season...perhaps a fired head coach like a ron rivera or a lovie smith (no research done on these guys) or our own Raheem Morris

Shanny was given full authority and the stability and continuity has been good for the team. I think he will is the lesser of whatever evil is out there. We can't keep having a HC carousel. Def Coordinator is something needed to replace. I don't see Raheem as next in line, the guys like him, but we run a 3-4.

I still want GWilliams back but that could never happen. Im not sure who could come in here and succeed.

Rex Ryan could be fired but after Hard Knocks, I lost all respect for him and he is too much of a D***hole for shanny to deal with.

Rivera could be a good addition but not sure about his familiarity with 3-4.

I honestly don't think the team likes Haslett. I've never seen Haslett with good body language or smiling, and worse than that, he has never been a winner. He is a BLEEPING LOSER!!!
I'm worried while we will be in play for FA's next season, that Orakpo walks to a better team and rejects whatever we offer. It was something in his frustration in the GB game that had me thinking- oh shit he is unhappy and like Laron, we are going to lose him. Rak could be a bidding war and plenty of teams would be willing to take him from us.
Haslett is out and Raheem walks, who fills in IDK. I doubt Slowik gets promoted.

[rainsleetorHail]

You guys are silly. The last time Haslett's D was legit bad was Nov. 12, 2012.

We won the NFCE despite several key injuries.

You have nothing to measure it by this year--the O has consisted of turnovers and 3-n-outs in first halves.

My 2nd point would be: who's around and available that you would you want to replace him? Exactly.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by rainsleetorHail

You guys are silly. The last time Haslett's D was legit bad was Nov. 12, 2012.

We won the NFCE despite several key injuries.

You have nothing to measure it by this year--the O has consisted of turnovers and 3-n-outs in first halves.

My 2nd point would be: who's around and available that you would you want to replace him? Exactly.

I'm all for giving Haz the chance to work through this. After all we're only 2 games in. But if you don't think the D has been legit bad so far I'm really not sure what you're watching.