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Old 09-24-2013, 12:40 PM   #1
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I can't understand why we have inexplicably abandoned the read option. Is it so much to do with Griffin being on a bad leg, or is it just two different philosophies between Mike and Kyle? I would hope they would go back to what made them successful last season.

We might be 0-4 coming out of the bye and at that point, i think it would be good to fire Haslett. The defense cannot get any worse, as others have pointed out...
Defenses have adjusted, we don't want to expose Griffin too much, he's still not 100%, situations have dictated things (playing from behind), etc.

That said we ran it plenty last week.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:57 PM   #2
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IMO Until Gryphon gets fully back in the groove and can beat folks with both legs and arm, defenses will keep stacking the LOS to stop Morris. In such situations the read option becomes just a play action pass.

One of these weeks a defense is going to stack the LOS, only to find that RGIII is back in the groove. On that day RGIII will have a monster game.
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I can't understand why we have inexplicably abandoned the read option. Is it so much to do with Griffin being on a bad leg, or is it just two different philosophies between Mike and Kyle? I would hope they would go back to what made them successful last season.

We might be 0-4 coming out of the bye and at that point, i think it would be good to fire Haslett. The defense cannot get any worse, as others have pointed out...
We haven't abandoned it. We ran it about 6-7 times which is about average for us. It's just not as successful because defense don't care if Robert runs, and when he does he is a lot slower.
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We haven't abandoned it. We ran it about 6-7 times which is about average for us. It's just not as successful because defense don't care if Robert runs, and when he does he is a lot slower.
That 21 yard scramble was pretty impressive though. I think the issue is that Robert's initial "take off" is slow, but once he gets into second gear, he's just as deadly with his legs as he was last year. In retrospect, I'm thinking that regardless of III's health, it was/is the plan of the Shannys to reduce the amount of read option this year, because they want Griffin to continue developing as a true NFL passing quarterback. Eventually, I see this paying off for Griffin down the road. Griffin is not always going to be a dangerous runner, so he's going to have to develop his drop back passing skills and improve on those mechanics.
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21-30.

It's hard to remember sometimes that we're being led by geniuses.
Coming off a NFC Championship. Its week 3.. I understand the defense disputes but I dont see the Steelers calling for Tomlins head

A lot of you still suffer from Snyderidious.
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I would like to see a defense change at the Bye though. I'm not one to take on coaching changes lightly, but we are on pace to give up 8,000+ yards this year and this is the second game in a row that the offensive players on the other team said they had no worries about our defensive scheme, and we couldn't adjust.
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And has no idea how to build an offense, thus hurting our marquee player.
I think he was mentioned originally as a replacement to haz not to Shanny though
Edit: just saw goats question as to him being hc. Most of the talk was him being a dc though- which i am all for. As for a hc i agree with you, although depending on who would be his oc it might work?
Edit: this is all just conjecture based on the possibility of us finishing3-13 or somethinglike that. Im not calling for in season change

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I completely agree with you.

There's nothing to REBUILD...we've been building and 3 weeks does not make a whole season. To start "rebuilding" would be tearing down a VERY solid team. You don't blow things up because of a short-term losing streak. Did we hold a fire sale and clean out the coaching staff when we were 3-6 last season?

This team is NOT this bad. We're in a tough situation transitioning Griffin back into games but the defense is the real problem. On paper we're talented and deep, so maybe Haslett is the culprit or replacing him might motivate the D, but the players we've put together are not the problem, it's their execution for some unknown reason.
Our secondary is absolutely a personell problem, and is far from talented and deep. A keg of the strongest kool aid in the world would not make that any different.
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Our secondary is absolutely a personell problem, and is far from talented and deep. A keg of the strongest kool aid in the world would not make that any different.
Nor would switching DCs in the middle of the season.
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Hopefully we can get the ground game cranking soon. I'd love to see Morris with 20-25 carries and Helu with a few too. That would go a long way in helping the D too. The less they're on the field the better.
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Hopefully we can get the ground game cranking soon. I'd love to see Morris with 20-25 carries and Helu with a few too. That would go a long way in helping the D too. The less they're on the field the better.
One thing that Gibbs I learned about his team: They could score points and looked explosive, but they couldn't win ball games. Once the offensive philosophy was changed in favor of a more ball controlled offense, they started winning. I think the best defense the Redskins have right now is a heavy dose of Alfred Morris.
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Changing DC will make orakpo not get dragged 5 yards by a backup RB?
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Washington Redskins Film Review: Robert Griffin III - ESPN
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Nate Burleson Injury: Updates on Lions WR's Arm Surgery After Car Accident | Bleacher Report

Not that I wish ill on the man, but couldn't this have happened before Sunday's game?
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It wouldn't have mattered who they trotted out there... lol

Broyles just would have had a better game
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