Redskins Lions postgame

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by CASKINS

Tell that to the Defense.

Again we drafted a questionable guy in Rambo. My question to the NFL is why are they doing their utmost to promote hip hop culture, when it ultimately is going to bring it down. The prices are outrageous and the quality of the product on the field is abysmal anymore. Murderers, rapists, heavily tattooed idiots, you name it. Unless I can get some cheap seats I won't attend another NFL game again. It is a rip off.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Again we drafted a questionable guy in Rambo. My question to the NFL is why are they doing their utmost to promote hip hop culture, when it ultimately is going to bring it down. The prices are outrageous and the quality of the product on the field is abysmal anymore. Murderers, rapists, heavily tattooed idiots, you name it. Unless I can get some cheap seats I won't attend another NFL game again. It is a rip off.

This isn't The Replacements with Keanu Reaves.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

This isn't The Replacements with Keanu Reaves.

What are you talking about? If the NFL said F this and paid every player the minimum and everything else was performance driven, you would have a much better product. I am not talking about replacing any players. The NFL is a corporation with individual franchise within the corporation, but it is a corporation. Corporations are shedding jobs and forcing those employed to work harder for their money, so why can't the NFL do that with the players. I am sure the owners would love that, and so would the fans. It just might cut ticket prices and give you more bang for your buck. Seriously now!!!!!!! These players that are raised in the hip hop culture have no incentive to win, when a huge sum of their $$$$$$$ is guaranteed upfront. They are one track minded, and that is $$$$$$$$$. It is a guy who is regularly screwing a girl who wants to get married. The guy doesn't have any incentive to walk down the aisle since he already is getting his. The NFL product is mediocre anymore. Why do you think the networks go over the top with the hype machine with it? The game should sell itself like it did in the 70-80's with minimal hype, except during the SB.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

What are you talking about? If the NFL said F this and paid every player the minimum and everything else was performance driven, you would have a much better product. I am not talking about replacing any players. The NFL is a corporation with individual franchise within the corporation, but it is a corporation. Corporations are shedding jobs and forcing those employed to work harder for their money, so why can't the NFL do that with the players. I am sure the owners would love that, and so would the fans. It just might cut ticket prices and give you more bang for your buck. Seriously now!!!!!!! These players that are raised in the hip hop culture have no incentive to win, when a huge sum of their $$$$$$$ is guaranteed upfront. They are one track minded, and that is $$$$$$$$$. It is a guy who is regularly screwing a girl who wants to get married. The guy doesn't have any incentive to walk down the aisle since he already is getting his. The NFL product is mediocre anymore. Why do you think the networks go over the top with the hype machine with it? The game should sell itself like it did in the 70-80's with minimal hype, except during the SB.

lol where in the world are you pulling this drivel from?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

lol where in the world are you pulling this drivel from?

Drank is a helleva drug

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Drank is a helleva drug

As is cocaine.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

What are you talking about? If the NFL said F this and paid every player the minimum and everything else was performance driven, you would have a much better product. I am not talking about replacing any players. The NFL is a corporation with individual franchise within the corporation, but it is a corporation. Corporations are shedding jobs and forcing those employed to work harder for their money, so why can't the NFL do that with the players. I am sure the owners would love that, and so would the fans. It just might cut ticket prices and give you more bang for your buck. Seriously now!!!!!!! These players that are raised in the hip hop culture have no incentive to win, when a huge sum of their $$$$$$$ is guaranteed upfront. They are one track minded, and that is $$$$$$$$$. It is a guy who is regularly screwing a girl who wants to get married. The guy doesn't have any incentive to walk down the aisle since he already is getting his. The NFL product is mediocre anymore. Why do you think the networks go over the top with the hype machine with it? The game should sell itself like it did in the 70-80's with minimal hype, except during the SB.

And you propose this how? Tell the NFLPA that no one is going to get paid? If the owners could get away with that, they would have. They pretty much raked the players over the coals in the last CBA, but its still a 10 bil revenue per year league, and will jump to 13-14 bil in the next year or two when the new TV contracts go into effect.

The NFL is the last league to not have guaranteed contracts and fines the players more than any other league. They have a pretty restrictive rookie salary cap. But if you think that you can get all players to accept minimum wage and make an extra 10 bucks per int or td, good luck with that. I would really love to see you accomplish that.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

What are you talking about? If the NFL said F this and paid every player the minimum and everything else was performance driven, you would have a much better product. I am not talking about replacing any players. The NFL is a corporation with individual franchise within the corporation, but it is a corporation. Corporations are shedding jobs and forcing those employed to work harder for their money, so why can't the NFL do that with the players. I am sure the owners would love that, and so would the fans. It just might cut ticket prices and give you more bang for your buck. Seriously now!!!!!!! These players that are raised in the hip hop culture have no incentive to win, when a huge sum of their $$$$$$$ is guaranteed upfront. They are one track minded, and that is $$$$$$$$$. It is a guy who is regularly screwing a girl who wants to get married. The guy doesn't have any incentive to walk down the aisle since he already is getting his. The NFL product is mediocre anymore. Why do you think the networks go over the top with the hype machine with it? The game should sell itself like it did in the 70-80's with minimal hype, except during the SB.

Are you done with the stupid? If not I will wait.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Again we drafted a questionable guy in Rambo. My question to the NFL is why are they doing their utmost to promote hip hop culture, when it ultimately is going to bring it down. The prices are outrageous and the quality of the product on the field is abysmal anymore. Murderers, rapists, heavily tattooed idiots, you name it. Unless I can get some cheap seats I won't attend another NFL game again. It is a rip off.

Is this really a relevant discussion right now?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Again we drafted a questionable guy in Rambo. My question to the NFL is why are they doing their utmost to promote hip hop culture, when it ultimately is going to bring it down. The prices are outrageous and the quality of the product on the field is abysmal anymore. Murderers, rapists, heavily tattooed idiots, you name it. Unless I can get some cheap seats I won't attend another NFL game again. It is a rip off.

This may be the dumbest post in your long history of dumb posts here. It reeks of ignorance, and brings the down the value and quality of this site. Don't post crap like this again here

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This may be the dumbest post in your long history of dumb posts here. It reeks of ignorance, and brings the down the value and quality of this site. Don't post crap like this again here

I don't think it is a dumb post at all. The NFL seems to tolerate the Hip Hop culture and let's face it, it has permeated American society for almost 20 years. Are you telling me that there hasn't been a watering down of both the character, sportsmanship, and the quality of play in the NFL over the said time period? The kids raised in this culture have been programmed to chase two things: tail and $$$$$$$$. There is absolutely no incentive for these kids to really focusing on winning when they are getting millions up front before they play down one. They win they get paid, they lose they get paid. Yeah doing well will get them a contract extension, and if they really do well more $$$$$$$, but these guys are set for life with the initial contract anyway. How many players did you ever see joke or laugh on the sidelines back in the day if they were getting their arses handed to them? Now you always see it. Maybe I am wrong in focusing on hip hop culture, but the culture in general is all about $$$$$$. Have to give these guys some real incentives to win, and if it has to be restructuring the way they get paid, I am all for it. That is the gist of my posts.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I don't think it is a dumb post at all. The NFL seems to tolerate the Hip Hop culture and let's face it, it has permeated American society for almost 20 years. Are you telling me that there hasn't been a watering down of both the character, sportsmanship, and the quality of play in the NFL over the said time period? The kids raised in this culture have been programmed to chase two things: tail and $$$$$$$$. There is absolutely no incentive for these kids to really focusing on winning when they are getting millions up front before they play down one. They win they get paid, they lose they get paid. Yeah doing well will get them a contract extension, and if they really do well more $$$$$$$, but these guys are set for life with the initial contract anyway. How many players did you ever see joke or laugh on the sidelines back in the day if they were getting their arses handed to them? Now you always see it. Maybe I am wrong in focusing on hip hop culture, but the culture in general is all about $$$$$$. Have to give these guys some real incentives to win, and if it has to be restructuring the way they get paid, I am all for it. That is the gist of my posts.

It's not about hip hop culture, it's just how it is. These are young 20 somethings typically joining the league. I've never known any 21 year old dude, that didn't enjoy money, women and partying.

Most of these guys are at least decent athletes. And so long as they know the line between work and play (which many of them, admittedly don't) then who are they hurting?

TL;DR - There are bad eggs in every sport and in life in general. This is the way of the world.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I don't think it is a dumb post at all. The NFL seems to tolerate the Hip Hop culture and let's face it, it has permeated American society for almost 20 years. Are you telling me that there hasn't been a watering down of both the character, sportsmanship, and the quality of play in the NFL over the said time period? The kids raised in this culture have been programmed to chase two things: tail and $$$$$$$$. There is absolutely no incentive for these kids to really focusing on winning when they are getting millions up front before they play down one. They win they get paid, they lose they get paid. Yeah doing well will get them a contract extension, and if they really do well more $$$$$$$, but these guys are set for life with the initial contract anyway. How many players did you ever see joke or laugh on the sidelines back in the day if they were getting their arses handed to them? Now you always see it. Maybe I am wrong in focusing on hip hop culture, but the culture in general is all about $$$$$$. Have to give these guys some real incentives to win, and if it has to be restructuring the way they get paid, I am all for it. That is the gist of my posts.

Of course, you don't think it's dumb. You wrote it. First of all, I don't know why you've already decided that Rambo and Amerson are worthless and not likely to improve much. Second, why are you putting murderers, rapists, and people who wear tattoos in the same category? Third, actually no most players in the league are not set for life. Fourth, players were drinking and smoking on the sidelines and in the locker room back in the day. Fifth, yes it absolutely was a dumb post

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Of course, you don't think it's dumb. You wrote it. First of all, I don't know why you've already decided that Rambo and Amerson are worthless and not likely to improve much. Second, why are you putting murderers, rapists, and people who wear tattoos in the same category? Third, actually no most players in the league are not set for life. Fourth, players were drinking and smoking on the sidelines and in the locker room back in the day. Fifth, yes it absolutely was a dumb post

I am getting a tat later to remember my aunt who died from breast cancer eariler this year. Might as well go ahead and turn myself in now.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I am getting a tat later to remember my aunt who died from breast cancer eariler this year. Might as well go ahead and turn myself in now.

Damn man. You're a straight thug.