Brunell Starting

[skinsfanthru&thru]

but we still gotta watch out for another controversy cuz Ramsey did complete 100% of his passes yesterday.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by funandgunner

Before you criticize gibbs for anything, really think things through because do you really think you know more about football than gibbs ?

Some here think they do.

[Gmanc711]

START PATRICK RAMSEY!!! lol

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

START PATRICK RAMSEY!!! lol

This man knows what he's doing. ^ Ramsey is gonna have a breakout season, Brees' style. Brunell doesn't even know what he's doing.

[MTK]

I can say pretty confidently that Ramsey would not be playing at the same level that Brunell is.

Brunell is a proven veteran and that's what is really showing through. He's decisive and he gets the ball out quickly, something that Ramsey has always had problems with.

Ramsey was still looking very shakey all through the preseason while Brunell seemed to have a much better command of the offense.

Plus there's the aspect of his mobility, when the pocket breaks down MB can roll out and make things happen by scrambling or tossing on the run, that simply wouldn't be happening with Ramsey.

It's true that we really don't know what Ramsey could have done, but I think it's a fair assumption that he wouldn't be doing what Brunell is doing.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I can say pretty confidently that Ramsey would not be playing at the same level that Brunell is.

Brunell is a proven veteran and that's what is really showing through. He's decisive and he gets the ball out quickly, something that Ramsey has always had problems with.

Ramsey was still looking very shakey all through the preseason while Brunell seemed to have a much better command of the offense.

Plus there's the aspect of his mobility, when the pocket breaks down MB can roll out and make things happen by scrambling or tossing on the run, that simply wouldn't be happening with Ramsey.

It's true that we really don't know what Ramsey could have done, but I think it's a fair assumption that he wouldn't be doing what Brunell is doing.

I don't know Matty, that one pass he threw was RIGHT on target. 8 yards baby!

[SmootSmack]

Alls I know is when Brunell's in the game Rock fumbles, but when it's Ramsey he scores touchdowns....take from that what you will boys.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I can say pretty confidently that Ramsey would not be playing at the same level that Brunell is.

Brunell is a proven veteran and that's what is really showing through. He's decisive and he gets the ball out quickly, something that Ramsey has always had problems with.

Ramsey was still looking very shakey all through the preseason while Brunell seemed to have a much better command of the offense.

Plus there's the aspect of his mobility, when the pocket breaks down MB can roll out and make things happen by scrambling or tossing on the run, that simply wouldn't be happening with Ramsey.

It's true that we really don't know what Ramsey could have done, but I think it's a fair assumption that he wouldn't be doing what Brunell is doing.

those are good points,I dont have blind loyalty to Ramsey,I just think he deserved the same chance Brunell got,we have invested a lot of time and effort in ramsey and he desrved better than 2 qtrs,people on the board say we shouldnt question gibbs,he knows what he's doing,look how its turned out,where are the naysayers now? this is 12th mans post:
"I too was and still am a Ramsey supporter, but not at the expense of winning.

I think it's pretty evident that Ramsey had a fair shot at leading this team, and why should Gibbs have waited for Ramsey to stink up the joint before putting in Brunell? Who's benefitting from that?"

Wasnt it evident last yr Brunell had his fair shot? Did Gibbs not wait way,way too long for Brunell to stink up the joint at the expense of winning? I s there really 1 person on this board who thinks that Gibbs made the right descision on sticking with brunell that long last yr? So I have good reason to question this descision,the truth is we wont really know how good or bad a descision it was till the season is over and we see what happens,in the meantime,I'm ecstatic that brunells doing good,I dont want him to suck to prove a point,I want the redskins to win,but till all is said and done I shouldnt be questioned for questioning Gibbs when his moves have been questionable,but in the end i just want whats best for the team,and I'm really hoping Gibbs was right and everything works out,Brunell leads us to a Superbowl win,we trade Ramsey in the offseason for a #1 pick,Brunell retires and Campbell becomes a superstar!!

[STPainmaker]

I think people have man crushes on Ramsey this isn't flag football where everyone gets equal playing time. Gibbs made a call and its over we're doing okay so lets not complain. Ramsey's not complaining he knows hes being outplayed right now.

[funandgunner]

I think the majority of the skins (and non-skins) fans agree that Brunell at qb was obviously the right decision. For those who disagree - the question would be - do you think that Ramsey would be playing considerably better than Brunell (and not just as good as Brunell) ? I personally would assume that the answer would be an emphatic no - based on last year's play and preseason play.

Ramsey may still get his chance one day, but I don't think he is ready right now. It will be up to him to improve and show that he has the ability to win games instead of not trying to lose. And with gibbs' questionable decisions - they really haven't been and won't be questionable in the end, like the Brunell trade. Gibbs, in spite of his reputation, doesn't really seem to be a conservative coach. He is a coach that makes decisions that he thinks is right and it happens to be different from what a regular coach would make. That's what separates him from a safe coach that is scared to lose a game and his job. He does care about the fans' and media perception, but not an the expense of the team and winning. That's the bottomline - the performance of the team and winning - as long as those are good, everything is gold ( and burgundy).

And I think those disgruntled fans (and I did say disgruntled) - I think you guys are gonna come around - you guys are still worried and anxious about being disappointed again because it's been that way for a long time ... until this season.

[illdefined]

simply put, Brunell is doing what we saw Ramsey do more of last season and wanted him to do this season. attacking downfield instead of 8yds and to the sideline like Brunell did all of last season.

seems like not many have noticed, but the presence of Santana Moss is what changed the entire character of this team. him getting open and catching every ball has effectively made us a throwing offense. before, you could say it was because we were catching up, but in the 9ers game, where we could do almost anything we wanted, we went to the air ALOT. we're basically throwing now to set up the run.

huge credit to Moss for being who he is and Brunell for consistently getting it there and for all 60 minutes. as a Redskin, something we never saw from him before this season, including pre-season.

[skinsguy]

All of us, even myself and even during Gibbs 1.0, criticized the team or the coaches for something we couldn't understand they did or did not do. Of course, at the end of the day, the coaches usually proved why they're NFL coaches and why we're mere fans.

All I'm saying is that alot of us were accused of being lead by blind faith and looking at everything through rose colored glasses. Most of us who have remind patient and optimistic basically tried to say..."hey, just wait our day is coming!" Now, it appears that it's starting to come around for us. We're not saying I told you so, but we're just saying that sometimes being patient and allowing one's self to step back and take a look at the big picture can put things in perspective.

[firstdown]

You know when Brunell stayed in the first game after Ramsey went down and did not score a touch down that game. I stayed positive but in the back of my mind I had us losing like 7 of our first 10 and that Campbell would be our starter and new QB of the future. Now I find myself wondering if Brunell can keep this up for a couple of years. Another thing this is great for Campbell to be watching him and learning from such a talented vet. God did I just say that?

[expatriated_in_PHX]

Being new to the board I am just now throwing two cents in. I was all for keeping Ramsey in as starter and to not pull him, but I am a Gibbs fan before any player. Therefore, I trusted his judgement and by no means do i think Brunnel should be pulled even if he is 35. Mark B. is playing excellent football. Gibbs won 3 super bowls with different quarterbacks. As much as those years were frustrating for me as a young fan, because we never had the "franchise" quarterback,the seasons turned out to be spectacular despiste a franchise quarterback. Give me Gibbs and quarterback X any day. And don't talk to me about last season, that was a spurrier team Gibbs was coaching.

[saskin]

Originally Posted by expatriated_in_PHX

And don't talk to me about last season, that was a spurrier team Gibbs was coaching.

Too true....and he did a good job of trimming the fat as well.