Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[celts32]

[QUOTE=illdefined]did everyone forget ALL OF LAST SEASON?? everyone was BEGGING for Ramsey, and now because of a couple pre-season games, we want the disaster of last season? if that's the case then we are WORSE than Philly fans. i have never witnessed such a fan 180 as i have now with people booing Ramsey on the first game. it's shameful.



I was there yesterday and I agree 100% with your criticism of the fans. Ramsey was given about a 2 play grace period before the boos started coming down. It's rediculous. How about letting our starting QB get comfortable at home. Later the crowd even got on Brunell after yelling for him to vome in. Our offense probably prefers to play on the road at this point. I know our QB's are not very good, but it doesn't help them play better when we booh them constantly. Ramsey was booed in the first series for crying out loud...just rediculous.

[monk81]

[QUOTE=celts32]

Originally Posted by illdefined

did everyone forget ALL OF LAST SEASON?? everyone was BEGGING for Ramsey, and now because of a couple pre-season games, we want the disaster of last season? if that's the case then we are WORSE than Philly fans. i have never witnessed such a fan 180 as i have now with people booing Ramsey on the first game. it's shameful.



I was there yesterday and I agree 100% with your criticism of the fans. Ramsey was given about a 2 play grace period before the boos started coming down. It's rediculous. How about letting our starting QB get comfortable at home. Later the crowd even got on Brunell after yelling for him to vome in. Our offense probably prefers to play on the road at this point. I know our QB's are not very good, but it doesn't help them play better when we booh them constantly. Ramsey was booed in the first series for crying out loud...just rediculous.

I was going to ask that question Celts32....I wonder how many people here that are backing Ramsey now would admit to booing him at the game.....fans are fickle, but more than likely frustrated over 14 years of losing seasons, we started out with lots of optimism--Jansen back, new center, Rogers looks like the real deal, Lavar getting healthy, Gibbs seems to be opening up the offense, D is looking good ....and now this

[RedskinRat]

Anyone missing the part where Ramsey got bounced off the turf? Not benched, injured.

[jrocx69]

quit questoning Gibbs , you critics, who call yourselves skins fans will never be the poop that is wiped off of gibbs' ass. Let the legendary Coach do what he came her to do. He didnt ask for Ramsey, he was a left over from a coach who was a complete disaster for us. Brunell looks ALOT better than last year, and good enough to win games for us. It wasnt just Brunell last year. i cant believe no one has mentioned this yet... Our wr's sucked, look at Moss after the catch than coles, thats why coles was brought here, and never amounted to shit, especially after the catch yardage. Then you look at our running game last year with missing important right tackle, you know who.... and having shit for centers...and oh yeah, our 50 gut runs and counter treys with a 210 lb running back. Ummmm you think its all Brunells falt last season? I admit, he doesnt have the deep touch, but if you look at the midrange vs ramsey, its better. its better we dont have to watch ramsey make two great throws to blow it 70% of the time. its better we dont have a guy who will tuck and duck every time there is pressure or just throw a pic. brunell can leave the pocket and make a play or throw it away. brunell has grown more comfortable in this offense whether you like it or not. NO, he's not our future, and now we pretty much know..even if ramsey stays the whole season that he is not either. thanks im out

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

quit questoning Gibbs , you critics, who call yourselves skins fans will never be the poop that is wiped off of gibbs' ass. Let the legendary Coach do what he came her to do. He didnt ask for Ramsey, he was a left over from a coach who was a complete disaster for us. Brunell looks ALOT better than last year, and good enough to win games for us. It wasnt just Brunell last year. i cant believe no one has mentioned this yet... Our wr's sucked, look at Moss after the catch than coles, thats why coles was brought here, and never amounted to shit, especially after the catch yardage. Then you look at our running game last year with missing important right tackle, you know who.... and having shit for centers...and oh yeah, our 50 gut runs and counter treys with a 210 lb running back. Ummmm you think its all Brunells falt last season? I admit, he doesnt have the deep touch, but if you look at the midrange vs ramsey, its better. its better we dont have to watch ramsey make two great throws to blow it 70% of the time. its better we dont have a guy who will tuck and duck every time there is pressure or just throw a pic. brunell can leave the pocket and make a play or throw it away. brunell has grown more comfortable in this offense whether you like it or not. NO, he's not our future, and now we pretty much know..even if ramsey stays the whole season that he is not either. thanks im out

so everyone should quit having opinions and bow to your will? and if they don't they're not a fan, right? So that means that all the gear and time spent was just for shits and giggles? thanks, but maybe you're the one that needs to chill.

or you could prove you're a fan and pay me $50. But if you don't you're not worth "the poop on gibbs ass" and were never really a fan. Great logic, eh?

[hurrykaine]

"its better we dont have to watch ramsey make two great throws to blow it 70% of the time."

Amen - that sums up Ramsey's career with the skins. Exactly the reason I don't mind seeing Ramey relegated to the back-up role, or traded.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by hurrykaine

"its better we dont have to watch ramsey make two great throws to blow it 70% of the time."

Amen - that sums up Ramsey's career with the skins. Exactly the reason I don't mind seeing Ramey relegated to the back-up role, or traded.

Yep. It will be better to see Brunell blow it 90% of the time. Start Campbell so I dont have to put up with this QB bullcrap in 2 years.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by That Guy

so everyone should quit having opinions and bow to your will? and if they don't they're not a fan, right? So that means that all the gear and time spent was just for shits and giggles? thanks, but maybe you're the one that needs to chill.

or you could prove you're a fan and pay me $50. But if you don't you're not worth "the poop on gibbs ass" and were never really a fan. Great logic, eh?

Amen. You dare to criticize the team, the coach or the players and suddenly... you're not REALLY a Washington Redskins fan. You're fairweather. You're a frontrunner.

I've about had it with those who say that if you say anything negative about the team or any of its members, somehow, you're simply cannot be a REAL fan, you're secretly a Cowboy fan.

Yeah. That's exactly why we spend all of our time here.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

quit questoning Gibbs , you critics, who call yourselves skins fans will never be the poop that is wiped off of gibbs' ass. Let the legendary Coach do what he came her to do. He didnt ask for Ramsey, he was a left over from a coach who was a complete disaster for us. Brunell looks ALOT better than last year, and good enough to win games for us. It was just Brunell last year. i cant believe no one has mentioned this yet... Our wr's sucked, look at Moss after the catch than coles, thats why coles was brought here, and never amounted to shit, especially after the catch yardage. Then you look at our running game last year with missing important right tackle, you know who.... and having shit for centers...and oh yeah, our 50 gut runs and counter treys with a 210 lb running back. Ummmm you think its all Brunells falt last season? I admit, he doesnt have the deep touch, but if you look at the midrange vs ramsey, its better. its better we dont have to watch ramsey make two great throws to blow it 70% of the time. its better we dont have a guy who will tuck and duck every time there is pressure or just throw a pic. brunell can leave the pocket and make a play or throw it away. brunell has grown more comfortable in this offense whether you like it or not. NO, he's not our future, and now we pretty much know..even if ramsey stays the whole season that he is not either. thanks im out

Last I checked Gibbs was 6-10 last year and human just like the players and those criticizing, so to say no one can question him is just ludicrous. He does deserve respect for his past history. If you call making a play a role out and a 2 yard dump 100% of the time then Brunell is our guy. Let's go light up the board with 110 yards passing, 2 first downs, 1 third down conversion, and the miracle that everyone thinks will win us games 0 interceptions. I hope I am wrong, but seeing what I saw last year and the fact that Brunell showed any improvements this year were against 2nd string secondary and people who are not on teams and I can assure you they aren't on a team because they are not good enough to play at a pro level. Live action against a first string D yesterday 70 yards and no TDS.

[jrocx69]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

Last I checked Gibbs was 6-10 last year and human just like the players and those criticizing, so to say no one can question him is just ludicrous. He does deserve respect for his past history. If you call making a play a role out and a 2 yard dump 100% of the time then Brunell is our guy. Let's go light up the board with 110 yards passing, 2 first downs, 1 third down conversion, and the miracle that everyone thinks will win us games 0 interceptions. I hope I am wrong, but seeing what I saw last year and the fact that Brunell showed any improvements this year were against 2nd string secondary and people who are not on teams and I can assure you they aren't on a team because they are not good enough to play at a pro level. Live action against a first string D yesterday 70 yards and no TDS.

like i said, you dont amount to anything close to gibbs, so you "cant question him" all you can do is try. and you act like you been on the sidelines the entire time, lol, shhhhhh you dont know anything, i say the best you can do is be a pee wee soccer coach, and you try to question Gibbs? wow

matty please close this thread, i beg of you

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

like i said, you dont amount to anything close to gibbs, so you "cant question him" all you can do is try. and you act like you been on the sidelines the entire time, lol, shhhhhh you dont know anything, i say the best you can do is be a pee wee soccer coach, and you try to question Gibbs? wow

matty please close this thread, i beg of you

For someone who thinks he knows so much about football and Gibbs were you old enough to even see Gibbs coach because by the looks of your age and bashing of people when I am coaching pee wee football you would be on the team and Brunell would be your starting QB. Keep your young comments to yourself until you have actually seen a Redskins winning team on TV and Gibbs turn it around, which I hope he does.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

like i said, you dont amount to anything close to gibbs, so you "cant question him" all you can do is try. and you act like you been on the sidelines the entire time, lol, shhhhhh you dont know anything, i say the best you can do is be a pee wee soccer coach, and you try to question Gibbs? wow

matty please close this thread, i beg of you

again, whats with you people? people disagree with you and all you can do is fling personal insults and ask for modss to close the threads?

What makes YOU think you're so superior? because you side with gibbs? He went 6-10 last year, we stunk, there's no reason why he should be considered infallable.

you obviously know more than all of us though, since you obviously HAVE been on the sidelines, or else you wouldn't be questioning others for not having the requisite creditials you must surely possess :P

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

like i said, you dont amount to anything close to gibbs, so you "cant question him" all you can do is try. and you act like you been on the sidelines the entire time, lol, shhhhhh you dont know anything, i say the best you can do is be a pee wee soccer coach, and you try to question Gibbs? wow

matty please close this thread, i beg of you

I dont really give a crap about any of this. I'M QUESTIONING HIM. How in the HELL do you go with Mark Brunell right now? What has he done to gain his starting job back? Point blank, our offense is more explosive with Patrick Ramsey in at quarterback. I dont like Gibbs right now at all. He lied right to everyone. "Patrick's my guy, Patrick is my starter" BULL FREAKING SH*T! Now, NO ONE is going to respect our pass. Portis is going to have 11 guys keying in on him every play, and our offense is going to suck again.

Edit: I just found out about this, so I'm pretty pissed, thats why my posts are so pissy.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by jrocx69

quit questoning Gibbs , you critics, who call yourselves skins fans will never be the poop that is wiped off of gibbs' ass. Let the legendary Coach do what he came her to do. He didnt ask for Ramsey, he was a left over from a coach who was a complete disaster for us. Brunell looks ALOT better than last year, and good enough to win games for us. It wasnt just Brunell last year. i cant believe no one has mentioned this yet... Our wr's sucked, look at Moss after the catch than coles, thats why coles was brought here, and never amounted to shit, especially after the catch yardage. Then you look at our running game last year with missing important right tackle, you know who.... and having shit for centers...and oh yeah, our 50 gut runs and counter treys with a 210 lb running back. Ummmm you think its all Brunells falt last season? I admit, he doesnt have the deep touch, but if you look at the midrange vs ramsey, its better. its better we dont have to watch ramsey make two great throws to blow it 70% of the time. its better we dont have a guy who will tuck and duck every time there is pressure or just throw a pic. brunell can leave the pocket and make a play or throw it away. brunell has grown more comfortable in this offense whether you like it or not. NO, he's not our future, and now we pretty much know..even if ramsey stays the whole season that he is not either. thanks im out

i agree with you 100%. brunell sucked last year,everyone can agree on that but the whole skins' offense sucked. this year the offense looks a lot better and brunel looks like a totally different qb, he actually looks good. ramsey does not look at all comfortable, i like ramsey, i really do but every time he drops back to throw a pass it scares the crap out of me,i worry about him throwing an interception every time.
gibbs came back to washington to re-establish the skins as a playoff football team, that is his #1 goal and it is clear that he does not have confidence in ramsey, i think he tried to build some confidence during the off season and during pre-season and even in the first game but ramsey just can't stop making the same bad decisions.
i still trust joe gibbs.

[Gmanc711]

Ramsey threw for more yards in 1 quarter than Brunell did the rest of the game. I'm PISSED at this decision, I think its a bad one. I'm glad Ramsey wants to be traded, he couldnt be treated more unfarily right now. How is he supposed to react when Gibbs stuck with Brunells POOR ass for like 10 weeks last season, and benches Ramsey after a FREAKING quarter. This is freaking bullcrap. Thats all I can really say so far cause I havent had time to read through the posts/news so I dont totaly know whats going on, just got home form the game.