Who's your pick's for next HC, DC and OC?

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by The Goat

C'mon man. In space Helu is excellent and has that 2nd gear unlike most of our weapons. He's not a power back but to say he's terrible.

...I see way more positive out there than most of you guys and I get labeled the pessimist. What the deuce?

Because you are seeing the positives... now... as a way to say its bad coaching. Most of last year, you were saying the talent was bad as a way to say Shanny needs to be fired due to being a terrible GM. You went from we have terrible players to we have a very talented team without any additions from last year to this year due to cap space. Its nothing more than trying to do the Fire Shanny routine while changing tactics, and going against what you had previously said.

Roy Helu is no Reggie Bush, which im pretty sure you already know. He is a third down back. He is primarily going to be used on check downs or the occasional wheel route. To get those types of numbers means benching Alfred Morris, which I consider a mistake. He is the workhorse of the group, and it should stay that way.

You make some good points, the receivers ending up in the same spots to name one. But its this complete changes of opinions that go against what you previously said that has people rolling their eyes.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Because you are seeing the positives... now... as a way to say its bad coaching. Most of last year, you were saying the talent was bad as a way to say Shanny needs to be fired due to being a terrible GM. You went from we have terrible players to we have a very talented team without any additions from last year to this year due to cap space. Its nothing more than trying to do the Fire Shanny routine while changing tactics, and going against what you had previously said.

Roy Helu is no Reggie Bush, which im pretty sure you already know. He is a third down back. He is primarily going to be used on check downs or the occasional wheel route. To get those types of numbers means benching Alfred Morris, which I consider a mistake. He is the workhorse of the group, and it should stay that way.

You make some good points, the receivers ending up in the same spots to name one. But its this complete changes of opinions that go against what you previously said that has people rolling their eyes.

..............Ruh Roh, somebody looked behind the screen

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Skinzman

Because you are seeing the positives... now... as a way to say its bad coaching. Most of last year, you were saying the talent was bad as a way to say Shanny needs to be fired due to being a terrible GM. You went from we have terrible players to we have a very talented team without any additions from last year to this year due to cap space. Its nothing more than trying to do the Fire Shanny routine while changing tactics, and going against what you had previously said.

Roy Helu is no Reggie Bush, which im pretty sure you already know. He is a third down back. He is primarily going to be used on check downs or the occasional wheel route. To get those types of numbers means benching Alfred Morris, which I consider a mistake. He is the workhorse of the group, and it should stay that way.

You make some good points, the receivers ending up in the same spots to name one. But its this complete changes of opinions that go against what you previously said that has people rolling their eyes.

I've been pretty consistent about both things. Here's a post from last year:

Coaching, in every aspect no less, has improved pretty markedly. Offensively, we saw the number of busted plays go from 5+ to 1 or 2 per game to 0 or 1 per game. That's pretty dramatic IMO. Defensively, we stopped minimizing our talent. London is staying in the middle more and getting zone time on pass plays. Rob Jackson is developing. Guys are swarming with intensity.

But I don't think we've been outperforming our talent over these last 5 games. I think execution has improved nominally. Passes are still dropped, carries still fumbled, sacks given up. The real story of improvement has been coaching, on both sides of the ball. Kyle's play-calling and Haslett's scheming are the big ones, but we're even getting the little things right all the sudden. Paul wasn't targeted once last game, right?

The real question is whether the improvement continues, or is this just a run? Short of sniffing the SB this season, we probably won't know what this is till next season. Are we gonna be 11-5, or back to 6-10? I'm not talented enough to say "I know" but there are good arguments on both sides of the debate.

I said our talent was in line with the 2nd half of the season. You may not be able to comprehend nuance though, at least that's been your MO so far.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by The Goat

I've been pretty consistent about both things. Here's a post from last year:

Coaching, in every aspect no less, has improved pretty markedly. Offensively, we saw the number of busted plays go from 5+ to 1 or 2 per game to 0 or 1 per game. That's pretty dramatic IMO. Defensively, we stopped minimizing our talent. London is staying in the middle more and getting zone time on pass plays. Rob Jackson is developing. Guys are swarming with intensity.

But I don't think we've been outperforming our talent over these last 5 games. I think execution has improved nominally. Passes are still dropped, carries still fumbled, sacks given up. The real story of improvement has been coaching, on both sides of the ball. Kyle's play-calling and Haslett's scheming are the big ones, but we're even getting the little things right all the sudden. Paul wasn't targeted once last game, right?

The real question is whether the improvement continues, or is this just a run? Short of sniffing the SB this season, we probably won't know what this is till next season. Are we gonna be 11-5, or back to 6-10? I'm not talented enough to say "I know" but there are good arguments on both sides of the debate.

I said our talent was in line with the 2nd half of the season. You may not be able to comprehend nuance though, at least that's been your MO so far.

The very first line is exactly what im saying. One time its bad coaching with talent to succeed, the next is a terrible GM and no talent. You said not enough talent early last year. Thats exactly what im saying. Being consistent about both things dont match, its impossible for those to match. There is no nuance there. Its changing of opinions based on the "Fire Shanny" rant of the day.