Skins vs Bears postgame

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Can't help but think that Meriweather is being targeted by the refs to a degree. Yeah some of his hits this year have been questionable, but I thought the calls on him yesterday were really ticky tacky. Gotta feel bad for defenders these days. I really don't know what they're supposed to do.

I thought the call in the end zone was probably a good call, not because the WR dropped the ball just before the hit, but the helmet contact.

The penalty before that, what looked like incidental helmet contact at best on a solid shoulder hit on a WR that was just starting to run with the ball? This should have been any football fans reaction to that call.


Merriweather still has made too many dirty helmet to helmet hits IMO. I hate to wish a guy lose his job, but hope Goodell suspends him or we cut him. Let the Raiders or Seahawks have him.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I thought the call in the end zone was probably a good call, not because the WR dropped the ball just before the hit, but the helmet contact.

The penalty before that, what looked like incidental helmet contact at best on a solid shoulder hit on a WR that was just starting to run with the ball? This should have been any football fans reaction to that call.


Merriweather still has made too many dirty helmet to helmet hits IMO. I hate to wish a guy lose his job, but hope Goodell suspends him or we cut him. Let the Raiders or Seahawks have him.

Agreed, the first one was a clean, shoulder-leading whack.

The second one in the end zone was just stupid in every possible way. It was late after Marshal dropped the ball, it was high, it was at a head with a head....flag that one, but that first one looked fine to me.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Agreed, the first one was a clean, shoulder-leading whack.

The second one in the end zone was just stupid in every possible way. It was late after Marshal dropped the ball, it was high, it was at a head with a head....flag that one, but that first one looked fine to me.

I agree. I thought the first one was a clean hit, the second one was a bone-headed move on BM's part. Possibly could have held the Bears to a field goal on that drive.

[skinsfaninok]

lol that kid got lit up

Basically this team goes as far as Griffin can take em this yr. If we make the playoffs it will be pretty much mainly due to Griffin. Not a surprise of course but js.

[MTK]

The hit from Tillman looked worse than it actually was.

Yeah I agree overall he's probably taking less hits in the open field compared to last year.

[Lotus]

Those who say that RGIII is not a pocket passer NOW are correct. He stares down receivers and never gets far through his reads.

But those who say that he can grow into the role are correct, too. If Randall Cunningham could grow up to be a pocket passer, definitely so can RGIII, who is light years ahead of Cunningham in intelligence/skills.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Those who say that RGIII is not a pocket passer NOW are correct. He stares down receivers and never gets far through his reads.

But those who say that he can grow into the role are correct, too. If Randall Cunningham could grow up to be a pocket passer, definitely so can RGIII, who is light years ahead of Cunningham in intelligence/skills.

Did he? If you look at his number he only slowed down running as he got older and was still running alot in his prime. He may have only had one really big year when he was not running the ball.

Randall Cunningham NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Did he? If you look at his number he only slowed down running as he got older and was still running alot in his prime. He may have only had one really big year when he was not running the ball.

Randall Cunningham NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Yes, he kept running some. So will RGIII.

But in 1998 he led the Vikes to a new season record for points scored (breaking the record of the '83 Skins) and was primarily a pocket passer in doing so. Go back and watch tape of Cunningham throwing to Moss and Carter - he was primarily a pocket passer.

My point was not to tout Cunningham - my point was that anything he could do, RGIII could do better.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes, he kept running some. So will RGIII.

But in 1998 he led the Vikes to a new season record for points scored (breaking the record of the '83 Skins) and was primarily a pocket passer in doing so. Go back and watch tape of Cunningham throwing to Moss and Carter - he was primarily a pocket passer.

My point was not to tout Cunningham - my point was that anything he could do, RGIII could do better.

That was the only really successful year he had when he was not running the ball alot.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The hit from Tillman looked worse than it actually was.

Yeah I agree overall he's probably taking less hits in the open field compared to last year.

That hit from Tillman was nothing.

[MTK]

HTTR24/7 has posted some good breakdowns in the past of RG3 going through his progressions. So it's not like he can't or never has done it.

The plays where he appears to be staring down his WR are mostly those quick slant one read type plays off play-action. I think teams have just gotten better at defending those on us, like Briggs yesterday jumping into the throwing lane at the last second.

[skinsfaninok]

Rg3 will be fine and he's starting to scare Defenses like he did last yr. Teams just won't be able to handle our Offense with him running the ball, he's so dangerous back there and as we saw yesterday he made 2 great throws REED Fade and deep ball to AA. He's basically back

[scowan]

The Redskins better figure out their Special Teams before next week or Holliday will light them up. Peyton is going to be hard enough to deal with, we don't need Holliday scoring on a punt/KR as well.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by scowan

The Redskins better figure out their Special Teams before next week or Holliday will light them up. Peyton is going to be hard enough to deal with, we don't need Holliday scoring on a punt/KR as well.

Maybe this is the game plan to keep Manning off the field?

[RFKRat]

It's not just the special teams. The defense is still a joke. When Josh McCown of all people can come in and move the ball at will, you have problems. It's a sickening feeling that even with :45 left after the go-ahead TD, the Bears still had a chance to win the game.

I think some perspective is in order too. I know people hate realists but this is still a bad football team. The local media is drooling on about "progress" but really has there been much? Is the team, and Griffin "better" or are they taking advantage?

If Oakland has Pryor in the lineup it's not out of order to say that the Redskins probably don't win that game...Flynn was terrible but the game was still close. In Dallas, people point out "progress" even though it was a two-TD loss. Dallas was missing their RB and had a patchwork defensive line, including losing their Pro Bowl star Ware early in the game. Yet the media here and most fans ignore that and go on about how the offense is "back". Yet even Dallas's backups were able to pressure the Redskins and hold them to 16 points overall. That's progress?

Then yesterday. Don't even mention Cutler going down, cause McCown (an awful QB over the last few years) came in and torched the Redskins. But on defense the Bears were already injury-riddled..losing key members Helton and Jennings earlier in the year and were overall like 28th in the league. One of the announcers even jokingly said the Bears had some guys on the line who were meat-packers a couple weeks ago. Then they lost Briggs and Tillman etc for extended time. So yeah, the offense looked great against one of the worst and most injury-riddled defenses in the league.

That's a good gauge that the offense is "back"? The Redskins were at home, had all the advantages (that onside kick was not offsides) and still barely scraped out a win. This is still like a 6-10 team at best. Yeah it was a win but I can't see how anyone is really that optimistic about it.