Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

So Ramsey gets one, two, three, (and so on) chances but Brunell gets just one?

Tafkas, I hope you know me (via online) well enough not to take this personally....but you have to be kididng me. Brunell gets just one chance??? BRUNELL GETS JUST ONE CHANCE???? He had 9 horrific games last season, each one, Redskins fans everywhere wanted to put rail road spikes through their eyes it was so bad. Common, Brunell has has 10x the chances Ramsey has here in DC.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Tafkas, I hope you know me (via online) well enough not to take this personally....but you have to be kididng me. Brunell gets just one chance??? BRUNELL GETS JUST ONE CHANCE???? He had 9 horrific games last season, each one, Redskins fans everywhere wanted to put rail road spikes through their eyes it was so bad. Common, Brunell has has 10x the chances Ramsey has here in DC.

Not to make any excuses for Brunell, but it was clear he had a problem with his hamstring last season. The sports announcer mentioned it in the Steelers game. Brunell did not want to dissappoint Gibbs so he played. Unfortunately to our detriment. This year, his passes almost knocked Antonio Brown down in the last preseason game. He has the velocity on the ball that he is known for.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Not to make any excuses for Brunell, but it was clear he had a problem with his hamstring last season. The sports announcer mentioned it in the Steelers game. Brunell did not want to dissappoint Gibbs so he played. Unfortunately to our detriment. This year, his passes almost knocked Antonio Brown down in the last preseason game. He has the velocity on the ball that he is known for.

so why did he keep playing hurt as it obviously cost our team week after week, and why didn't Gibbs pull him out? do you remember Ramsey scoring alot more after Brunell left?

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by illdefined

so why did he keep playing hurt as it obviously cost our team week after week, and why didn't Gibbs pull him out? do you remember Ramsey scoring alot more after Brunell left?

Brunell played through it, like Ramsey did his first season with us. Ramsey's foot was sprained or fractured. He played on it and it caused him a lot of discomfort while Hasselbeck replaced him.

[jdlea]

That was his first season as the starter. It was his second season.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

Brunell played through it, like Ramsey did his first season with us. Ramsey's foot was sprained or fractured. He played on it and it caused him a lot of discomfort while Hasselbeck replaced him.

So why is it Brunell gets a pass for his (alleged) injury, but Ramsey doesn't?

[illdefined]

again,

Originally Posted by illdefined

so why did he keep playing hurt as it obviously cost our team week after week, and why didn't Gibbs pull him out?

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Tafkas, I hope you know me (via online) well enough not to take this personally....but you have to be kididng me. Brunell gets just one chance??? BRUNELL GETS JUST ONE CHANCE???? He had 9 horrific games last season, each one, Redskins fans everywhere wanted to put rail road spikes through their eyes it was so bad. Common, Brunell has has 10x the chances Ramsey has here in DC.

don't bother Gmanc. the Brunell lovers apparently didn't watch last season, they refuse to talk about it.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Tafkas, I hope you know me (via online) well enough not to take this personally....but you have to be kididng me. Brunell gets just one chance??? BRUNELL GETS JUST ONE CHANCE???? He had 9 horrific games last season, each one, Redskins fans everywhere wanted to put rail road spikes through their eyes it was so bad. Common, Brunell has has 10x the chances Ramsey has here in DC.

Ramsey plays under Spurrier, and it's "well poor guy had to play under Spurrier with no pass protection." Then he gets another chance last season. And he does fairly well but still makes dumb mistakes (see the INT in the endzone against the Eagles). Nonetheless, he's named the starter going into this training camp. And again, he shows flashes but makes dumb mistakes (see basically the same INT in the endzone against Carolina, was it Carolina?)

I know Brunell played poorly last season, I'm not denying what happened. But I'm convinced he wasn't entirely to blame for it. And I count that as one chance basically because nothing really changed during that time-same coach, same receivers, same offensive gameplan. Plus considering the career he's had doesn't he deserve another chance?

By the way, on a positive note (which are remarkably few and far between after a win) I really liked what I saw from Moss yesterday. He gets great separation and runs excellent routes. Not to mention steady hands and explosive speed. He's going to be a huge help to whoever is taking the snap from center.

[jdlea]

He went 3-4 last season...Brunell went 3-6.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Ramsey plays under Spurrier, and it's "well poor guy had to play under Spurrier with no pass protection." Then he gets another chance last season. And he does fairly well but still makes dumb mistakes (see the INT in the endzone against the Eagles). Nonetheless, he's named the starter going into this training camp. And again, he shows flashes but makes dumb mistakes (see basically the same INT in the endzone against Carolina, was it Carolina?)

I know Brunell played poorly last season, I'm not denying what happened. But I'm convinced he wasn't entirely to blame for it. And I count that as one chance basically because nothing really changed during that time-same coach, same receivers, same offensive gameplan. Plus considering the career he's had doesn't he deserve another chance?

Brunell lost more games for us than Ramsey did, with the same coach, same receivers, same gameplan. and no, Brunell doesn't deserve more chances because of the career he's had, else we'd call Jerry Rice and Bruce Smith. we're supposed to be past that remember?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by illdefined

Brunell lost more games for us than Ramsey did, with the same coach, same receivers, same gameplan. and no, Brunell doesn't deserve more chances because of the career he's had, else we'd call Jerry Rice and Bruce Smith. we're supposed to be past that remember?

A lot of people are convinced that Ramsey would have won those games early on that Brunell lost. I'm not so sure. All that motion offense, Gibbs getting used to a 40 second playclock, etc. it was a lot for the whole team to absorb. I don't think Ramsey, as young and raw as he is, could do much better really. I'm not guaranteeing a win on Monday (though I'd love it of course) but it's too bad that so many people have already decided we've lost this upcoming game and apparently every game after that that Brunell starts.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

A lot of people are convinced that Ramsey would have won those games early on that Brunell lost. I'm not so sure. All that motion offense, Gibbs getting used to a 40 second playclock, etc. it was a lot for the whole team to absorb. I don't think Ramsey, as young and raw as he is, could do much better really. I'm not guaranteeing a win on Monday (though I'd love it of course) but it's too bad that so many people have already decided we've lost this upcoming game and apparently every game after that that Brunell starts.

well Brunell certainly was the one who lost them. you could directly attribute those losses to his performances.

and we're reacting because people have already decided we'd lose any game with Ramsey starting despite the actual *record*.