Obama Care Part II

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

The roll out was a complete disaster. The buck stops with President Obama on this one. You don't campaign for several years on your signature legislation and just hand something of this magnitude and consequential over to bureaucrats and government contractors without fierce accountability along the way. This has been poorly managed and, frankly, reflects badly on the president's executive skills.

All of that said, the kinks will get worked out and people will enroll. To say Ocare is a failure or a success without any deep knowledge of changes taking place in the marketplace and how many people will ultimately enroll is premature. We simply don't know at this point. Drips and drabs of data here and there will inform us, but we can't conclude a whole lot. We might not know for a few years. My guess is premiums will rise in some states and fall in others. People will cherry pick the data to suit their partisan purposes. What we do know is that more red states are starting to warm up to the Medicaid expansion, which will help.

Here's a good link from a credible source breaking down winners and losers.

CHART: 'Winners And Losers From Obamacare'

That's about as bias of a chart as I've seen. Its say's "cancellation notices for stripped-down individual market plans that failed to meet the benefit requirements of the ACA". That's not all true. If my plan changed from a 20% co pay to a 10% copay anytime after they grandfathered plans I will not be geandfathered and reguired to purchase a new plan. I like how they also use the term stripped-down plan. So if we elected not to carry a coverage like maternity because we will not be having any more kids then our plan will get dropped because it does not meet the requirments. So I guess having choises of what we need and don't need is considered a stripped dow plan. It also assumes that employers will not take measures to cut back cost. It also seems they assume prices will stay the same. Well who the hell is going to cover the people who cannot affored coverage, have reduced rates, etc...