Skins Viks Postgame

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

yeah man but geez we all know he can't cover a slot.. just frustrating and is Hall hurt?

I hear ya but mistmatches happen on both sides of the ball.

[skinsfaninok]

I agree with Matt about the O we score enough a game to be a .500 team. Its the D that has lost most games for us and if it wasn't for AMERSON last week SD would have won on their final drive as well.

[donofriose]

The offense is good enough to win games. Its not Denver but if the Redskins had a decent defense they would probably be at least a .500 team.

For instance Indy averages one more point a game, Seattle averages .2 more points a game, and New England averages half a point more per game than the Skins.

The differences between those teams and the Redskins is they all have top 10 defenses and their records reflect that.

Offense is not perfect but it is good enough to win games with a decent defense.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by donofriose

The offense is good enough to win games. Its not Denver but if the Redskins had a decent defense they would probably be at least a .500 team.

For instance Indy averages one more point a game, Seattle averages .2 more points a game, and New England averages half a point more per game than the Skins.

The differences between those teams and the Redskins is they all have top 10 defenses and their records reflect that.

Offense is not perfect but it is good enough to win games with a decent defense.

Exactly.

But hey F it, it's all on Kyle.

[DirtBagZ]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Exactly.

But hey F it, it's all on Kyle.

Kyle's biggest problem is his last name is Shanahan. The whole father/son coaching tandem is just bad, it was bad sign from the beginning for Mike to hire his son. There is carryover from the Denver game where the team gave up to early on the run. That sequence of plays where #93 collapsed the pocket and sacked Griff, I think back to back, sticks in people's craw and obviously there is still a lot of emotion after going through a debacle like that last night. That has got to be a top five in terms of most painful losses in the recent Redskins era.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by donofriose

The offense is good enough to win games. Its not Denver but if the Redskins had a decent defense they would probably be at least a .500 team.

For instance Indy averages one more point a game, Seattle averages .2 more points a game, and New England averages half a point more per game than the Skins.

The differences between those teams and the Redskins is they all have top 10 defenses and their records reflect that.

Offense is not perfect but it is good enough to win games with a decent defense.

Exactly Don. The 'skins don't need a top five defense full of hall of famers to win ball games. A 15th - 17th ranked defense would probably have this team at 6-3 right now instead of 3-6.

[Green Monk Machine]

^^^^ Its one thing to coulda, shoulda, woulda DEFENSE, but when you have the tools and ability to score and be more on offense, than yeah it is on Kyle.

Lets renew the Shanahans and see if Robert last 5 years in the league.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Green Monk Machine

^^^^ Its one thing to coulda, shoulda, woulda DEFENSE, but when you have the tools and ability to score and be more on offense, than yeah it is on Kyle.

Lets renew the Shanahans and see if Robert last 5 years in the league.

It just doesn't work that way. Even the best offenses in the league are not going to score on every drive. When your defense is giving up scores on almost ever single possession, you're not going to win many ball games; I don't care how good that offense is. The old saying is and will always be true. Behind every great offense is a greater defense. Super Bowl winning teams are built on great defenses, offenses that have strong running games, and franchise quarterbacks. No matter what era of football we're in, that formula always seems to be true (well except for the case of the Redskins winning with three different quarterbacks during the Gibbs I era.)

[DirtBagZ]

The problem and it has been a problem for a long time is the complete lack of pass rush. This has been an issue for a long time. The only defensive lineman that I can think of that was decent coming off the edge was DeMarco Coleman, who came here via free agency. Name one defensive lineman the Redskins have drafted in the last twenty years that is/was Probowl worthy?

[Paintrain]

I wonder how bad it would be around here if the defense was run by Jim Shanahan.

Kyle's not 100% off the hook for the loss but of all our problems, are we really focusing on the one part of the team that looks somewhat competent?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Imagine this offense with KCs defense. You would probably never hear the word Kyle...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I wonder how bad it would be around here if the defense was run by Jim Shanahan.

Kyle's not 100% off the hook for the loss but of all our problems, are we really focusing on the one part of the team that looks somewhat competent?

Fuck Jim Shanahan too.

[punch it in]

Im not really too upset with the offense (second half no show is weird but whatevs). However, is it possible that we just have alot of weapons, Griff, Almo, Garcon, Trent, Reed - and maybe that is why our offense is ranked so high? Maybe Kyles more than occassional questionable playcalls are a problem?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Im not really too upset with the offense (second half no show is weird but whatevs). However, is it possible that we just have alot of weapons, Griff, Almo, Garcon, Trent, Reed - and maybe that is why our offense is ranked so high? Maybe Kyles more than occassional questionable playcalls are a problem?

So when the offense is hummin' it's because of the players.

When they falter it's on Kyle.

Got it.

What if Paulsen hauls in that TD that hit him in the hands on the first drive, or if Reed catches the TD at the end that also hit him in the hands? Still Kyle's fault?

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

So when the offense is hummin' it's because of the players.

When they falter it's on Kyle.

Got it.

What if Paulsen hauls in that TD that hit him in the hands on the first drive, or if Reed catches the TD at the end that also hit him in the hands? Still Kyle's fault?

Yeah; I tend to agree here. I mean I do have some issue with us just getting so far away from Morris for seemingly no reason, but I don't put all that much on Kyle. The plays in general that we complain about, are just not executed well, most are there.

I think there's plenty of blame to go around to everyone. The interior of our line is a mess too. The only guy I really can't find a mistake from was Morris. Everyone else (even Garcon who was a beast) had at least one mistake you can point too. Rg3 had a couple questionable plays, Garcon dropped a couple, Reed dropped one, TW missed a block, the other four linemen stink, Kyle abandoned the run, plenty of blame... and overall it was a decent night offensively. Just wish they could put a full game together.