Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Perhaps, Gibbs wanted to have a competition, if you will, without the media being involved and dividing the team after practice during camp. Maybe he had some idea of what he wanted to do but didn't know how to quite approach it.

Last year, when he declared an open competition - Ramsey didn't respond well. This year Gibbs took an another approach, let's just flat out name him the starter. Well the results were pretty much similiar.

What results? Ramsey was given, literally, less than half a game! This move by Gibbs at this point in the season is nothing but a joke.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by LadyT

What results? Ramsey was given, literally, less than half a game! This move by Gibbs at this point in the season is nothing but a joke.

No, I disagree.....last year how he left Brunell in for several miserable games was a joke (see, I'm disagreeing with the infallible Gibbs, to leave an inadequate Ramsey in for another two or three games would have been a joke.

Yes, I said it..."inadequate"! And don't give me this, "he was only in for three drives and Gibbs benched him" stuff.

BTW, I still think Ramsey will prove to be very solid NFL QB, unfortunately it won't be here in Washington. I like his chances in Miami or Tampa or Cleveland.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by LadyT

What results? Ramsey was given, literally, less than half a game! This move by Gibbs at this point in the season is nothing but a joke.

Do you really think Gibbs based his decision soley on what Ramsey did against the Bears??

[jdlea]

Why does everyone write off last season in their judgement of Brunell? I really need to know what it was? Because he was hurt? He got in hurt in Jacksonville, too. That's why they got rid of him! For a younger, stronger armed quarterback.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Do you really think Gibbs based his decision soley on what Ramsey did against the Bears??

I thought this thread would be full of "where should we trade Ramsey" talk. If Gibbs is consistent then Ramsey is on his way out of town, this is the 2nd time Ramsey has asked to be traded so clearly the guy wants out. I say ship him out and try to recoup the first round pick we traded for Campbell, we should hopefully be able to get a 2nd round pick.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Do you really think Gibbs based his decision soley on what Ramsey did against the Bears??

No, I don't. But then, let me turn your question around.

On what basis does Gibbs believe Brunell is the man? Based on his 8 horrible games of last year, based on his few quarters of playing time in this year's pre-season?

What, exactly, has Brunell done since coming here to earn the starting job?

[LadyT]

In rethinking everything that's been said, I've come to a very scary conclusion.

Gibbs obviously doesn't think Ramsey is the QB to get the job done. But the comments he made at yesterday's PR also indicates he doesn't necessarily see MB as the man either. Gibbs said something to the effect that he's still waiting for someone to take over as QB - not exactly a ringing endorsement of MB. In fact this move almost smacks of desperation - something that I find very troubling so early in the season.

Since the rookie is obviously not ready to take on the starting role - that leaves us with a whole lot of nothing at the most important position on the team.

An earlier poster said something to the effect that this whole scenario has them scared. Me, too.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by LadyT

In rethinking everything that's been said, I've come to a very scary conclusion.

Gibbs obviously doesn't think Ramsey is the QB to get the job done. But the comments he made at yesterday's PR also indicates he doesn't necessarily see MB as the man either. Gibbs said something to the effect that he's still waiting for someone to take over as QB - not exactly a ringing endorsement of MB. In fact this move almost smacks of desperation - something that I find very troubling so early in the season.

Since the rookie is obviously not ready to take on the starting role - that leaves us with a whole lot of nothing at the most important position on the team.

An earlier poster said something to the effect that this whole scenario has them scared. Me, too.

Are you surprised by that? What on God's green Earth would ever make anyone think we have a good NFL quarterback on our roster?? We just need a caretaker, someone who won't turn it over and will direct the offense just enough to support our defense. If we're going to win, we're going to have to do it like Dilfer and the 2000 Ravens.

We cannot have turnovers. Ramsey is a fumbler because he holds onto the ball too long. We can't have that.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Are you surprised by that? What on God's green Earth would ever make anyone think we have a good NFL quarterback on our roster?? We just need a caretaker, someone who won't turn it over and will direct the offense just enough to support our defense. If we're going to win, we're going to have to do it like Dilfer and the 2000 Ravens.

We cannot have turnovers. Ramsey is a fumbler because he holds onto the ball too long. We can't have that.

We had the same "caretaker" QB last year and look where it got us. Obviously, we need more than that.

[skinsfan0201]

Players need time to develop and obviously Ramsey has not been given enough time in the Gibbs scheme. Let's see what transpires.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by LadyT

We had the same "caretaker" QB last year and look where it got us. Obviously, we need more than that.

He was hurting and his offensive line was a sieve. It's a totally different situation now. We have a running game now and a good offensive line.

[skinsfan0201]

Lady T sorry to correct you but it was atleast 9 or 10 games. I agree with your remarks though for the most part!!!!

[skinsfan0201]

very good point illdefined about the emotional ties to people, including coaches. Money invested talks to I suppose. We will see the performance on Monday for starters, in addition, don't think that Ramsey won't see another opportunity.

[skinsfan0201]

Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

very good point illdefined about the emotional ties to people, including coaches. Money invested talks to I suppose. We will see the performance on Monday for starters, in addition, don't think that Ramsey won't see another opportunity.

Exactly

[MTK]

Originally Posted by LadyT

No, I don't. But then, let me turn your question around.

On what basis does Gibbs believe Brunell is the man? Based on his 8 horrible games of last year, based on his few quarters of playing time in this year's pre-season?

What, exactly, has Brunell done since coming here to earn the starting job?

It's maybe not so much of what Brunell has done, but what Ramsey hasn't done.

Look, Brunell wasn't 100% healthy last year. He's healthy now and played well during the preseason showing accuracy, poise and more control of the offense.

Ramsey on the other hand has flopped. If Ramsey was lighting things up there wouldn't be a question as to who the starter should be.

Ramsey has nobody to blame but himself. He had a chance to claim the job, he didn't step up.

We shouldn't be blaming Gibbs here. Blame Ramsey for not stepping up his game and leaving no doubt as to who should be starting.