Ramsey/Brunell: a closer look

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by illdefined

the point is, Ramsey was clearly the better option last year, and Gibbs didn't take it. he saw something in Brunell too, he didn't turn any corner, but he stayed with him and it killed our season. that proved he was fallible, and is the only reason we're questioning him now. it's not emotion, it's *recent memory*.

10 games was too way too long last year but 19 minutes??

Those 19 minutes resulted in one interception on a badly thrown ball, and two fumbles. Luckily only one was recovered by the Bears.

In the NFL these days, you can't sit in the pocket and wait and wait and wait. In the NFL now, the pass rush is coming. Be it in the form of Jevon Kearse, Michael Strahan, Demarcus Ware, or a host of blitzing LBs and safeties. Defenses bring the house nowadays. You can't sit and wait for it, you have to get rid of the ball. That has always been Ramsey's #1 problem, and we can't wait for that to change any longer. He should have shown progress by now.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Those 19 minutes resulted in one interception on a badly thrown ball, and two fumbles. Luckily only one was recovered by the Bears.

In the NFL these days, you can't sit in the pocket and wait and wait and wait. In the NFL now, the pass rush is coming. Be it in the form of Jevon Kearse, Michael Strahan, Demarcus Ware, or a host of blitzing LBs and safeties. Defenses bring the house nowadays. You can't sit and wait for it, you have to get rid of the ball. That has always been Ramsey's #1 problem, and we can't wait for that to change any longer. He should have shown progress by now.

yeah Ramsey waited way too long when he got clotheslined.??

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by illdefined

yeah Ramsey waited way too long when he got clotheslined.??

I can't fault him for that one. You're right. Brunell would have gotten sacked there too and may have fumbled as well.

But the other one, where Ramsey just sat there and sat there and sat there until the Bears sacked him and forced the fumble, that's all Ramsey's fault. Lucky for him Jansen and Rabach jumped on it, but had the ball bounced another way it could have been Bears ball.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I can't fault him for that one. You're right. Brunell would have gotten sacked there too and may have fumbled as well.

But the other one, where Ramsey just sat there and sat there and sat there until the Bears sacked him and forced the fumble, that's all Ramsey's fault. Lucky for him Jansen and Rabach jumped on it, but had the ball bounced another way it could have been Bears ball.

so that one chance was all he deserved after last season? 7 minutes to catch his regular season rhythm? thats just not rational.

everyone has to agree this is just based on Gibbs' instinct at this point. the same instinct that was proven wrong last year. it's early in his first couple years of his comeback, he was wrong last season, he could be wrong again.

[exit0]

I really liked Ramsey at first and thought he was the real deal. But he regressed last year and was never consistent. This year he looked like he has regressed even further and only looks good for a play here and there. I don't know what happened to him but he certainly hasn't impressed me much since his first year. He throws way too many dumb passes and just doesn't look at all comfortable back there. I don't care if he has a strong arm or not... so did Jeff George!! I hope he has a good future in the NFL but I just don't think he will... I really doubt if he will be back next year with the Skins.

As for Brunell, like everybody else I knew he was terrible last year. But I will give him the benefit of the doubt because if he was playing with that bad leg ... that could easily explain why he couldn't put any zip on the ball and looked like he was forcing every throw. I have to admit, he threw the ball with authority and much more zip than Ramsey during the preseason and really looked like the Brunell of old. I can't believe people in here who want to discount what these guys looked like during the preseason... unless people are blind, it was so obvious who was playing much better.

Did anybody really think that when Gibbs traded for Brunell and then traded a number 1 to get Campbell that the end was just a matter of time for Ramsey. I think Gibbs stuck to his promise to give Ramsey the starting job but then when he did his usual turnovers and looking lost in the pocket last week, that was it. Having said that... Brunell didn't light up the scoreboard either.

Time will tell... but I certainly believe that the offense will be much better and the Skins have a much better chance to win with Brunell rather than Ramsey.