Redskins Vs Eagles Pregame Thread

[GTripp0012]

The thing to remember with Foles is that he's still somewhat inexperienced, and has benefitted from the Oakland and Green Bay offenses going AWOL for large portions of the game. If the Redskins can get a lot of points on the board, I do think they'll be able to pick Foles off once or twice.

The problem with the Week 1 game is our offense turned the ball over and refused to sustain anything...against a defense that has proven to be pretty poor overall. Gotta be really good on first down and second down in this one.

Forget a seven game winning streak, you can stick a fork in them if they lose this one.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

With the way he's playing Foles isn't going anywhere.

Vick is done there.

Exactly. Foles is their qb for the forseeable future.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

One possible good thing for us is the Eagles can't seem to win at home.

Its also the bad thing. We always seem to be the ones to end other teams bad streaks.

[Chief X_Phackter]

This game simply boils down to the basics (which have not been consistently applied this year). TDs in the redzone instead of field goal attempts, winning time of possession, and coming up with some stops on Defense. I don't expect to stop them everytime, but they can't score on every drive.

We can put up 30-40 points on them, but it won't matter if we can't tackle the ball carrier or cover their receivers.

[Evilgrin]

I think mentally Fletcher is pretty sharp. He is smart enough to take on the blocker, because he knows he isn't fast enough to get to the ball carrier anymore. He isn't that far down the list in overall tackles. He's probably lost enough of his speed, that he just can't get where he wants to go anymore. He's still smart enough to get a 100 tackles(for the season), when there are guys 15 years younger that can't manage 50.

[GTripp0012]

If we did beat Philly at Philly, it would be the single worst home loss for them in this 10+ game stretch.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

If we did beat Philly at Philly, it would be the single worst home loss for them in this 10+ game stretch.

Now THAT'S something I'd love to deal for them. I think of that, but then I also think of the year the Lions would have broken the record for most consecutive losses. :-P

[TheMalcolmConnection]

If I'm thinking of some crazy prediction this week, I'm going to say: Career long pass for Nick Foles or career long reception for Reed. I hope to God, it's not "biggest lead ever blown in NFL history." For the life of me, I don't understand how the pass rush has gotten worse. Was Haslett being more creative with the lack of Orakpo?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

If I'm thinking of some crazy prediction this week, I'm going to say: Career long pass for Nick Foles or career long reception for Reed. I hope to God, it's not "biggest lead ever blown in NFL history." For the life of me, I don't understand how the pass rush has gotten worse. Was Haslett being more creative with the lack of Orakpo?

Yes. Haslett stops scheming/thinking with Rak on the field. Last season we dialed up blitzes out of the secondary, sometimes sneak blitzes from a corner or overloading one side with a safety. And we tried ILB blitzes too. Seen much of this stuff so far in '13?

Really frustrating. The defense is modeled after the Steelers and in their heyday blitzes from the secondary/ILB were a staple. We never had that kind of success here but our corners/safeties/ILBs showed they could get after the QB enough to impact the game.

Just another example of how poor coaching has led to underperforming players. Kerrigan/Orakpo aren't premier pass rushers, but if used as part of a whole scheme they could be special. Instead Haslett just hopes these two guys break out every game to give us a pass rush.

I can't talk about this crap without getting pissed off.

[calia]

What's crazy to me is that I have no idea who is going to show up on Sunday? I wouldn't be shocked if we got the snot stomped out of us. And I also wouldn't be shocked if we won a close one. (I would be surprised, although not shocked, if we won with comfort; we can score points, after all, and even very good teams have bad offensive days where things don't click -- sadly, rarely agaist us. Look at last week's Broncos win over the Chargers.)

Whether we win some games from here on out or not, what I want to see is some heart from this team. Let's see who really wants to play and digs deep. I think the last few weeks the team that wanted it more won (which happens when talent isn't too far apart) -- plain and simple. We gutted it out against San Diego, and the Vikings never gave up and kept coming at us and pulled it out.

So, let's see Redskins. How badly do you want it? Philly ain't so great that you cannot win. So get it done.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by calia

What's crazy to me is that I have no idea who is going to show up on Sunday? I wouldn't be shocked if we got the snot stomped out of us. And I also wouldn't be shocked if we won a close one. (I would be surprised, although not shocked, if we won with comfort; we can score points, after all, and even very good teams have bad offensive days where things don't click -- sadly, rarely agaist us. Look at last week's Broncos win over the Chargers.)

Whether we win some games from here on out or not, what I want to see is some heart from this team. Let's see who really wants to play and digs deep. I think the last few weeks the team that wanted it more won (which happens when talent isn't too far apart) -- plain and simple. We gutted it out against San Diego, and the Vikings never gave up and kept coming at us and pulled it out.

So, let's see Redskins. How badly do you want it? Philly ain't so great that you cannot win. So get it done.

Yep,what we really need is Shanny to say its time to start evaluating players!

Shanahan admitted in his post-game press conference that the Redskins’ goals are in the future, not this season.

“Now you’re playing to see who obviously is going to be on your football team for years to come,” Shanahan said, via the Washington Post. “Now we get a chance to evaluate players and see where we’re at.

“Obviously, we’re not out of it statistically, but now we find out what type of character we’ve got and how guys keep on fighting through the rest of the season.”

[calia]

Exactly. Don't get me wrong -- we surely have the capacity to get schooled by Philly. But no one should be looking at this game with dread. (The Niners game, that maybe a different story.)

But whether we're playing for this season or the next, you have to hit your NFC East foes in the mouth whenver you have the chance.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Yes. Haslett stops scheming/thinking with Rak on the field. Last season we dialed up blitzes out of the secondary, sometimes sneak blitzes from a corner or overloading one side with a safety. And we tried ILB blitzes too. Seen much of this stuff so far in '13?

Really frustrating. The defense is modeled after the Steelers and in their heyday blitzes from the secondary/ILB were a staple. We never had that kind of success here but our corners/safeties/ILBs showed they could get after the QB enough to impact the game.

Just another example of how poor coaching has led to underperforming players. Kerrigan/Orakpo aren't premier pass rushers, but if used as part of a whole scheme they could be special. Instead Haslett just hopes these two guys break out every game to give us a pass rush.

I can't talk about this crap without getting pissed off.

Perhaps Haslett doesn't want to leave the secondary vulnerable, so that's why he's not being aggressive. Who knows? I just think if Gregg Williams was coaching this defense, it wouldn't be this bad.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Perhaps Haslett doesn't want to leave the secondary vulnerable, so that's why he's not being aggressive. Who knows? I just think if Gregg Williams was coaching this defense, it wouldn't be this bad.

That could be it, but the secondary was worse last year IMO and he had them blitzing, along with the ILBs. And it worked, especially in the 2nd half of the season.

[SolidSnake84]

I think at this point we have to be playing for next year. The players can say what they want, but i think even they know that the odds are slim that they can run the tables and sneak in the playoffs again.

Our defense almost assures us a loss everytime we step on the field. We consistently give up 30 or more points. You just can't do that in this league and win football games.

If we win, the final score would likely be Redskins 45, Eagles 42.....

Things could be scary bad. Foles might throw 5 or 6 TD's, McCoy runs for a few more, Foles might rush for a couple....