Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[skinsfan0201]

Gibbs even said himself that he knew people were going to disagree with his decision, I think he might just be trying to teach young Ramsey a lesson as he has with Quarterbacks all throughout his tenor. In addition, did he not take our return man out for a couple of series when he fumbled on Sunday. The returner/reciever is not nearly as complex a position as Quarterback. I just think that Ramsey should stand strong one more time and ride out what could be a shorter wave. In addition he will not let Brunell tarnish his success this year.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

Gibbs even said himself that he knew people were going to disagree with his decision, I think he might just be trying to teach young Ramsey a lesson as he has with Quarterbacks all throughout his tenor. In addition, did he not take our return man out for a couple of series when he fumbled on Sunday. The returner/reciever is not nearly as complex a position as Quarterback. I just think that Ramsey should stand strong one more time and ride out what could be a shorter wave. In addition he will not let Brunell tarnish his success this year.

Unfortunately, this may the wave that rides him out of Washington. Surfs up in Miami beach though!

[skinsfan0201]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Unfortunately, this may the wave that rides him out of Washington. Surfs up in Miami beach though!

P. Ramsey needs to look at Gibbs past history in these situations before seeking a trade. He was reacting led by dissappointment primarily yesterday and that will influence your reaction and decision. He might feel a little differently this morning hopefully.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

P. Ramsey needs to look at Gibbs past history in these situations before seeking a trade. He was reacting led by dissappointment primarily yesterday and that will influence your reaction and decision. He might feel a little differently this morning hopefully.

I would agree with you if......Gibbs hadn't drafted Campbell.

Also, in what situation has Gibbs brought in two quaterbacks to compete for another's job, and subsequently names one the starter one year and benches the QB the following year. I can't ever remember Gibbbs doing something like this.

Help me out.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I would agree with you if......Gibbs hadn't drafted Campbell.

Also, in what situation has Gibbs brought in two quaterbacks to compete for another's job, and subsequently names one the starter one year and benches the QB the following year. I can't ever remember Gibbbs doing something like this.

Help me out.

You're right and that's what makes this all so scary. There are some who think this is all part of a Gibbs' grand plan. To me, it looks like a man who's desperately looking for a miracle. But in MB, that miracle just isn't there.

[backrow]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I would agree with you if......Gibbs hadn't drafted Campbell.

Also, in what situation has Gibbs brought in two quaterbacks to compete for another's job, and subsequently names one the starter one year and benches the QB the following year. I can't ever remember Gibbbs doing something like this.

Help me out.

HOF Coach Gibbs went through this with Theisman & Schroeder, Theisman was 5-5 and was doing poorly, then the injury. Rypien & Williams, Rypien was fumble prone, so he inserted Williams. Ryp came back to lead us to the SB the next year. So none of this new.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by backrow

HOF Coach Gibbs went through this with Theisman & Schroeder, Theisman was 5-5 and was doing poorly, then the injury. Rypien & Williams, Rypien was fumble prone, so he inserted Williams. Ryp came back to lead us to the SB the next year. So none of this new.

Okay, fine. But Gibbs has essentially brought in two QBs to compete with Ramsey. One via FA and the following year through the draft.
With one being the definite heir appearant.

So even those situations are quite different than the one we have here.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Okay, fine. But Gibbs has essentially brought in two QBs to compete with Ramsey. One via FA and the following year through the draft.
With one being the definite heir appearant.

So even those situations are quite different than the one we have here.

Well Humphries was also around during Williams-Rypien wasn't he?

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Unfortunately, this may the wave that rides him out of Washington. Surfs up in Miami beach though!

You're funny! But, I agree with you. I just don't see Ramsey coming back from this. Despite their public statements to the contrary, I think there's now too much "bad blood" between Ramsey and Gibbs for either to ever feel comfortable with the other any more.

I don't think Gibbs has any faith in Ramsey (for whatever reason) and I sure don't think Ramsey trusts Gibbs any more.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by LadyT

You're funny! But, I agree with you. I just don't see Ramsey coming back from this. Despite their public statements to the contrary, I think there's now too much "bad blood" between Ramsey and Gibbs for either to ever feel comfortable with the other any more.

I don't think Gibbs has any faith in Ramsey (for whatever reason) and I sure don't think Ramsey trusts Gibbs any more.

And this is what has caused Gibbs so much consternation (wow, can't believe I used that word!) in the first place. It wasn't an easy decision, he said it himself.

Personally, I don't think Gibbs struggled with making Brunell the starter this week in favor of Ramsey - I really don't. What I do think he struggled with is how it would affect Ramsey's pshyce going forward and their relationship.

I think Gibbs struggled mainly with sepearating Coach Gibbs from Joe Gibbs.

[RedskinRat]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

And this is what has caused Gibbs so much consternation (wow, can't believe I used that word!) in the first place. It wasn't an easy decision, he said it himself.

Personally, I don't think Gibbs struggled with making Brunell the starter this week in favor of Ramsey - I really don't. What I do think he struggled with is how it would affect Ramsey's pshyce going forward and their relationship.

I think Gibbs struggled mainly with sepearating Coach Gibbs from Joe Gibbs.

That's a really insightful comment. Coach Gibbs is a good person, Joe Gibbs is possibly even more so. It can't have been easy.