Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Why not??? Trent Dilfer was a temporary solution.

so much for bringing stability back to the franchise...

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by illdefined

so much for bringing stability back to the franchise...

I'll take stability in the form of Peyton Manning, Michael Vick, or Donovan McNabb. But I don't want stability in the form of Patick Ramsey. Do you really think he's the long-term solution?

Besides, this is a contrived statement. The stability we need so desperately is stability within the coaching ranks. Personell changes from year to year in the NFL, that is one of the only certainties. You need stability in the coaching staff first and foremost. Stability at QB would be great, but neither Ramsey nor Brunell are the answer in that department.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I'll take stability in the form of Peyton Manning, Michael Vick, or Donovan McNabb. But I don't want stability in the form of Patick Ramsey. Do you really think he's the long-term solution?

Besides, this is a contrived statement. The stability we need so desperately is stability within the coaching ranks. Personell changes from year to year in the NFL, that is one of the only certainties. You need stability in the coaching staff first and foremost. Stability at QB would be great, but neither Ramsey nor Brunell are the answer in that department.

i honestly don't know. after last season he convinced me, the team, and Gibbs that he had the potential to be the long term solution. Brunell proved he wasn't, even if he DOES play magically better than last year.

yes, personnel changes are part of the NFL, but putting everything behind one guy, building a team around a "leader", than pulling the rug out from everybody including the team after 20 minutes into the season i think could be classified as 'instability'.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by illdefined

i honestly don't know. after last season he convinced me, the team, and Gibbs that he had the potential to be the long term solution. Brunell proved he wasn't, even if he DOES play magically better than last year.

yes, personnel changes are part of the NFL, but putting everything behind one guy, building a team around a "leader", than pulling the rug out from everybody including the team after 20 minutes into the season i think could be classified as 'instability'.

I disagree that Ramsey proved he had the potential to be the long term solution, and Gibbs disagrees as well as shown by the trade to bring Campbell in.

I don't think this is instability, we are arguing over the relative merits of Ramsey and Brunell who are not to be confused with Culpepper and Manning. At the end of the day I think it was the turnovers that doomed Ramsey, Brunell didn't set the world afire with his performance but he made the smart plays that allowed us to win, something that Ramsey has yet to get. I don't particularly care for the move, but I'll wait to see Brunell against the Cowboys before I criticize the move.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Brunell didn't set the world afire with his performance but he made the smart plays that allowed us to win, something that Ramsey has yet to get. I don't particularly care for the move, but I'll wait to see Brunell against the Cowboys before I criticize the move.

i was with you until this. when did Brunell allow us to win? all his smart play did was allow us to not lose *bad*. Ramsey actually *won* games and sparked our offense with the same bad receivers, line etc.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by illdefined

i was with you until this. when did Brunell allow us to win? all his smart play did was allow us to not lose *bad*. Ramsey actually *won* games and sparked our offense with the same bad receivers, line etc.

When are we going to stop talking about last year? Get over last year guys!!!!!!!

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

When are we going to stop talking about last year? Get over last year guys!!!!!!!

If others can continuously remind us of Gibbs' glory years in the 80's, then I guess it's also appropriate that we can remind everyone of the start of Gibbs II last year.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by illdefined

i was with you until this. when did Brunell allow us to win? all his smart play did was allow us to not lose *bad*. Ramsey actually *won* games and sparked our offense with the same bad receivers, line etc.

Wrong. In every one of our wins last year Portis went over 100 yards.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Wrong. In every one of our wins last year Portis went over 100 yards.

think the passing game (or actual threat of one) had anything to do with that?